I love that ‘moon’ is written under ‘place.’
Cape Kennedy-Moon-Honolulu.
“You know you could have take a more direct route to Honolulu, right?”
See this is what life was like before Google maps. You never knew which route was the fastest
Back then, everything was done through a travel agent and they often got kickbacks if you took certain routes. No doubt some agents got a bonus for routing them so circuitously.
Up voting for word usage.
Right before gmaps, you had mapquest. You had to print out your route on paper. Read while driving, and if there was any deviance in the route like construstion, fuck you.
Highway signage was critical. If you were traveling, you could tell which states sucked by them not having any signs pointing you back to the highway.
you could tell which states sucked by them not having any signs pointing you back to the highway.
“Oh no you don’t! We’re not showing you how to get out of here! You’re part of OUR tax base now!”
implying with Google Maps you’d know
“We took the scenic route.”
Apollo 13 Jack Swigert requested a Tax Filing extension while headed to the moon:
“How do I apply for an extension?” he asked from space to those in Mission Control, who began to laugh. “Things kind of happened real fast down there and I need an extension. I’m really serious.”
Flight director Glynn Lunney later reassured the astronaut: American citizens who were out of the country received a 60-day filing extension. “I assume this applies,” he told the astronaut, who was already far from the planet at that time.
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I love how this was added to the Apollo 13 movie. As they’re floating about feeling cold and miserable Swigert gets told he has been granted an extension as he is “definitely out of the country”.
Such a good movie
See I would have just assumed this was an incredible line added by some hilarious writer. The fact that it’s true is just chefs kiss perfect
After Apollo 13’s safe return, Grumman Aerospace sent North American Aviation an invoice for “Towing fees” as the lunar module was the active ship during much of the outbound and all of the inbound leg of the mission.
A channel 5 watcher, I see
TIL Andrew has never seen The Matrix
TIL US citizens have no constitutional rights when being held by border control on US soil. That was a real WTF for me.
Or took “no” as an answer from a woman.
How good is/was that series, this must the the riskiest thing he’s done though. But the level of journalism is something we rarely see these days.
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A channel 5 watcher watcher, I see
Does that make the rest of us Channel 5 watcher watcher watchers (mushroom mushroom) or is that only if we stare at Flying Squid a lot?
Love channel 5 news. Andrew is great at what he does.
That’s-a-me!
I love the “to be determined” if there is anything on board that can cause a health hazard (they did quarantine astronauts when they first came back from the moon)
The quarantine turned out to be needless, but I understand why they did it. You have to prove landing on the moon is not a biological threat and that’s pretty much the only way to do it.
Flight No.: APOLLO 11
So fucking badass.
Cargo: MOON ROCK AND MOON DUST SAMPLES.
Any other condition on board which may lead to the spread of disease: TO BE DETERMINED
Technically correct
I like how unnecessarily bureaucratic this is in terms of immigration.
A friend-of-a-friend of mine took part in an international swimming event which involved swimming from one country to another, with a boat keeping pace in case anyone got in trouble.
He was swimming back to his home country, so he never bothered to get his passport stamped or anything, he just went home. The next time he interacted with passport control they got mad at him because his passport still showed him in the origin country of the swimming. He basically took the attitude “bro it’s not a big deal, relax, I’m here now, just stamp me” and they gave him a whole bunch of grief and then just adjusted his paperwork and sent him on his way, because what else can you do.
Then for the next year’s event he did it AGAIN, and the second time the passport people discovered the issue they were even more angry, and he still just kind of took the attitude “bro you don’t run me, I’m not malicious and IDGAF about your system, just stamp me and let me go to Italy or whatever.”
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As unnecessary as this seems, you never know:
They could be illegal aliens…
You know, we should build a wall…
A Dyson Wall… and Proxima Centauri will pay for it!
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We’re gonna have to make the Moon’s name more specific if we ever survive long enough to colonize other planets. It’s like if Earth’s name were Planet.
Mün
That’s taken. It’s the larger of Kerbin’s two moons.
We gotta rename Earth to Kerbin anyways. I mean, there are gotta be more planets that are made from earth.
It might be called Luna.
That also just means “moon,” so no help there. Earth might as well be named “Planeta.”
Humans already named objects within the solar system after Latin words and names. Earth would be called Terra, meaning “earth” or “land”. Many sci-fi stories did this already lol. Luna is already reserved to Earth’s Moon. The other “moons” in the solar system already have their names from Latin like Europa or Ganymede.
It’s kind of funny how “Terra” and “Earth” are all synonymous with “Dirt”. I wonder if every intelligent life form does this. If we eventually meet up with aliens, are we all going to be like: ‘Yes, this is “Dirt”, our beloved home planet.’
Problem is that Luna means moon (a planet’s satellite) in romance languages like Spanish. If we’re giving proper toponyms for the earth’s satellite itself and its subdivisions, we should try and avoid generic names like Luna .
Then Lua!
It’s also moon in Portuguese.
It’s over
ALL HAIL HOLY TERRA!
Yes, but none of the others are named after exactly what they are. The Earth has a lot of earth on it, yes, but it’s a planet, not a clump of earth. Using a non-English word for “moon” and assuming it’s sufficient would be pretty lame and very English-centric.
We already call satellites orbiting a planet “moon”, as in Europa is a moon of Jupiter. Or Phobos is a moon of Mars. But right now when we say moon, it usually means our moon.
You’re right that in the future we would have to use a generic term for all extraterrestrial objects once we start colonising space. Which is why I think in the future, “moon” will become the catch-all term for the non-Earth moon, while we will call our own as Luna instead.
Then what will Spanish speakers call it?
My guess is we’ll go the laziest route possible and “Earth’s Moon” will be its formal English name.
Spanish speakers can call it Moon
I’m pretty sure Luna, Terra and Sol are all poetic names that used in works of fiction but aren’t used by actual organizations.
Other moon names like you listed are the scientific names, recognized and used by institutions like NASA.
It’s already named after ground.
Which isn’t the same thing as a planet.
And “Luna” isn’t the same thing as “moon”.
Well, it is actually.
In Italian “Luna” means moon (any celestial object). Likewise, “Terra” means “Earth”.
I think Gaia, Greek Titan of Nature, would be a good fit for Earth’s name tbf
According to Wikipedia, Gaia’s already an alternative name for the Earth. Also, Selene for the Moon and Helios for the Sun.
Yes, it is, in multiple languages.
There’s another name for it already, Selene.
I thought it was Luna?
Luna is Latin for the moon
Selene is Greek for the goddess and personification of the moon
“The Moon” is it’s actual name these days but either of those options is a fair pick given their oldness
I mean, yeah, many celestial bodies take their names from Latin. Like how the proper name of the sun is Sol, which matches solar, the lunar object would be called Luna. Selene feels like a retronym to match other Greek deities, and would be like renaming Earth to Gaia
either of those options is a fair pick given their oldness
Luna would definitely rank over Selene in the Western astronomical tradition. As you say, its name is just The Moon, which is what Luna means in many current day Latin derived languages
would be like renaming Earth to Gaia
hell yeah, I’d be on board with that
Sure, but at that point we could rename it anything.
renaming the Earth, or the Moon
I’d be totally up with renaming out Tierra and Luna to something that is not eurocentric. Would be a nice change of pace against how much of immediate astronomy is caught up in remixes of Greek and Latin.
It’s only Eurocentric in the Western tradition, and even then the names of many stars come from Arabic.
That might be a good choice!
Idk if it is necessery, we already named moons like “europe”
“Earth” literally just means “the dirt under your feet”.
But most of us don’t identify our location so broadly. We say what state or country we’re in, and identify culturally that way. I imagine that won’t change when there are people living on the Moon. They’ll identify by the name of the base or settlement they live in.
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Just means “moon.”
There’s also scans of their “travel re-imbursements” which has “Moon” as the destination
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Admit it. The reason for the “to be determined” was the lunar flying squid they found in his luggage.
You leave my father out of this!
MOON
So, like, Moon Pennsylvania?
Yeah, they were visiting Keith Moon there.
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So I guess this is the US government admitting we don’t own the moon 🙁
That’s already the case due to a treaty.
Treaties are made to be broken.
I’m more interested in where the “border” is in this case. At what altitude are you no longer considered to be in US airspace?
There’s not really any definite border. FAA controlled airspace generally ends at flight level 600 (around 60,000 feet, although flight levels are defined by air pressure not distance from the ground, so the actual altitude can vary). Above that will be uncontrolled airspace, though that doesn’t necessarily mean the US won’t claim sovereignty there.
The Outer Space treaty, generally considered the first step in establishing space law, stipulates that “outer space” is for the benefit of all mankind and not subject to sovereignty claims by any country. However there isn’t a legal definition of where outer space begins. The Karman line (100km) is a common practical definition. However the US has flown spacecraft (notably the shuttle) below 80km above Canada, without asking for permission first.
Practically speaking, there are as yet not enough craft flying at these kinds of altitudes for real legislation to be necessary. The spacefaring countries mostly work it out between them on a case by case basis.
I just want to see the news report about Canada shooting down an unidentified craft at 80km.
I have this image of astronauts in their suits standing in line at an airport now.
“So, where did you come from?” “Ummm… The Moon?!”
Yeah that will be a random screening
Gotta make sure they weren’t smuggling any illegal aliens.
Not sure if this is what inspired OP, but I just learned the fact about astronauts going through customs yesterday, in a video posted by Channel 5 on YouTube. The context was that Andrew Callahan, who is a US citizen, tried crossing the Rio Grande with Coyotes for journalistic reasons, and he learned the hard way that there are NO exceptions to the rule requiring entering through customs. Not for journalists, and not for astronauts.
