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      Why do you say that?

      I’ve asked before, responses are like, “look at this video of antifas yelling at a guy! That’s fascism.” But that’s simply not correct.

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      I am against fascism, therefore I am antifa. Didn’t have to join a special group with any special tenets. It’s just 1+1=2.

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      Nope. Antifascism is antifascism.

      You’re an AnCap, so it’s not surprising that you’re a fan of redefining established words so you can LARP.

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    this is the kind of black and white thinking lemmy does best.

    EDIT: i retract this statement. i was wrong

    i was severely misinformed about what antifacism is. i was under the impression that “the antifa” was a group by itself instead of a mindset.

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      You’re not pro-fascist, you’re just against people trying to stop the fascists. Thank god for nuance.

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        i hate fascists with a passion, but i might not agree with how antifa acts. i do not have any experience with the group itself, i might even agree with them.

        for example, i do not like how the last generation glued themselves to streets. that doesn’t make me a climate denier, does it?

        EDIT: it seems i misunderstood what antifa is. i always saw it as “the group of violent extremist protesters that throw rocks and light up cars”

        again, i am fully for doing everything i can against fascists. but violent protests don’t contribute, all it does is make your movement the next boogeyman.

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    Not really there are anti antifa centrists and leftists that are simply against extremist movements. At least where i live antifa is pretty militant so people basically group it with the fascists which is pretty ironic if you think about it. A long time ago i was also anti antifa but seeing the lenghts that “conservatives” go to fuck up everything we love im also swinging to a more violent leftism.

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      This is a wording error, a lot of people fell for. Antifa only means you are against fascism and nothing more.

      More simpler? If you aren’t a fascist, you are antifa!

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        You would think so, but the people on my region that call themselfs “antifa” are fasist themselves. No tolerant on who you are or how you look if you are a “white straight male”. So yea, fuck the antifa organization. Im all anti facism starting with them.

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          Where I came from it’s the right wings, who wants you believe antifa is a criminal organisation which is far more extremist and radical than themselves.

          This is just propaganda. Sure leftists use the term “antifa” more than the average not extremist people but this has nothing to do with the fact, that everyone who is against fascism is an antifa.

          tl;dr: Sorting the “antifa” wording to the “baddies” is rightwing propaganda.

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            According to Wikipedia (I know, but it is a protected article), antifa is a loose organization of autonomous groups that use both non-violent and violent means. Based on that last part alone, I would say that is perfectly reasonable to NOT identify as antifa even if one generally agrees with their agenda.

            As for vilifying the opposition, that does seem like just the thing the right wing would do to avoid taking responsibility for their own stupidity.