Quokk.auMinnesota politician shot and killed, another injured in "targeted political violence"
www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/targeted-shootings…
How is this not bigger news?
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(The answer is it just broke and there are a lot of newsworthy things happening today)
It was an almost inevitable succession to robbers cosplaying as ICE. If one is deemed normal, then extrajudicial killings where in the moment you believe it's illegal to defend yourself will be normalized too. If this is allowed to stand, or your president would pardon this kind of violence, your country is lost.
We're having a Kim Jong-Un style military parade today, dude. America let Trump grab it by the pussy.
I'll be out there today in solidarity with your democracy. The people are the last bastion of resistance to fascism.
I appreciate the sentiment, but you'd be acting more wisely by working simultaneously to oppose the rise of fascism in your own country.
Show solidarity, sure, but use your rallies to build coalitions to allow you to organize against the budding problems with Trump-style politicians in Canada. It was only by the disgrace of Trump's overreach that you didn't wind up with a PM that was much like him.
TryenjerIn my country in Europe, the news didn't even give any context as to why it happened. They said that the robbers disguised themselves as police officers, and they didn't even mention ICE and the fact that the current administration allows this force to arrest people without a warrant and without wearing a badge proving that they are indeed police. Hell, they can even walk around with their faces covered, for God's sake.
I'm really surprised that a case of impostors like this is only being reported now, so late. There have probably been many other situations, but they went unnoticed by the media.
American living in Germany here. I'm shocked how often everyone is asking me about why there are "riots" in LA and they know nothing about the ICE raids and lack of due process for ommigrants.
My only reasoning is news organizations are doing this on purpose but I can't understand why
There have also been reports of men claiming to be ICE in order to SA women. They roll up on a woman, claim to be ICE, and demand that she come with him. And since ICE refuses to use IDs or a uniform, the women have no way of knowing if the dude is actually ICE.
This is the problem with police raids, no-knock warrants, etc. where the occupants of the home can be charged with crimes for shooting at the police. They have absolutely no idea if the people busting down the door at 3AM are actual police, enemies such as rival gang members, or local criminals. But they basically have to make a choice between, as the saying goes, being judged by 12 or carried by six.
All this leads to is unnecessary shootings and deaths, but the cops don't care because they get to dress up like they're playing a live action game of COD, arming themselves to the teeth, and driving military vehicles down the road while they gleefully anticipate how many brown people they get to shoot today, when the target is most often some low-level street dealer. And that's assuming they even have the right person or address. They got the wrong guy or the wrong house? Too bad, so sad, sucks to be you because they're immune. They still get to kill you, claim that it was in the heat of the moment, and the worst that will happen is that they're put on paid leave, while you can still be charged with murder of a police officer if you happen to kill one of them in the process.
This is the next logical step in the process. It wasn't going to take long before people started figuring out that as long as you dress up like the cops, you can easily get the jump on people who may be hesitant to fight or shoot back out of fear of criminal charges, knowing that by the time anyone realizes what's going on (assuming they survive that long), it's too late to matter.
I know that it'll never, ever, ever happen in Trump's dictatorship, but this is why police raids, no-knock warrants, civil forfeiture, etc. all need to be done away with. Police or no, if someone physically enters your home without permission, citizens should absolutely have the right to defend themselves. The police should not be allowed to enter a home until after they have repeatedly identified themselves from outside the home and given the suspect a chance to come out. I don't care what kind of warrant they have. So what if they barricade themselves inside the house? Wait. They'll run out of food eventually. And probably sooner rather than later.
The present day justification for no-knock raids isn’t even people barricading themselves inside, but worry about people destroying evidence of low level drug crimes.
As if the increased risk to everybody’s life is worth it to make sure that the state’s case against someone isn’t made harder by somebody flushing a baggie of drugs.
And this is logic that I have never, ever, ever understood.
If the only potential evidence that you have is that baggie of drugs that they could flush down the toilet, then you don't have the evidence to support a full-on, no-knock raid of the guy's house in the first place. You don't need a dozen federal agents armed for war showing up in armored vans to arrest some dude selling a bit of weed to high school kids. If him flushing some drugs down the toilet would torpedo your case, you didn't have a case to begin with. At the very least, certainly not a case that justifies bringing in the entire COD Squad to arrest him.
If you do have the evidence that the suspect is some high-end cartel member or something and the only safe way to arrest him is a raid, then the baggies of drugs that get flushed down the toilet are superfluous; even if he successfully flushes everything in the house down the toilet, the rest of the evidence that you used to justify the warrant in the first place should be enough to secure a conviction anyway.
Or just wait for them to leave the house and arrest them then when they either have the drugs on them or stashed back at home where they cannot flush them.
myrmidexThat strategy does not require military grade equipment. DENIED!
Well, right, but, what if your pitiful meat life isn't important, and the state's case actually matters?
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LasherzIf they can't catch this one, that's wild. He left a whole ass car behind with a bunch of belongings.
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To be fair, he shot at them. I don't know if we can immediately blame the cops for this one.
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They did. Lol guys I think cops suck too, I just don't think this is the example to really highlight it.
RememberTheApollo_Assassination.
Terrorism.
That’s what trump and his sycophants would call it. That’s what the news would report them saying. But if a democrat gets shot it’s “political violence.”
Seeing the headline, for a minute I had hoped that the resistance had finally woken up, but no- just another victory for the Nazis. Not sure why I expected any different.
JayThe country is in the midst of a “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”
Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts (Project 2025) https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-2025-suggests-there-will-be-a-new-american-revolution-00166583
The people will finally have enough and begin retaliating. This is exactly what Trump wants to take control of the country.
Nah, the resistance actively went and buried its head in the sand. They cancelled all the No Kings protests in Minnesota in response to this. WTF
There were still a whole bunch of people who showed up, at least some of the politicians who were supposed to speak at the capitol understandably cancelled though.
"Such horrific violence will not be tolerated in the United States of America."
"...well... Let me get back to you on that one actually"
I expect a very cryptic "condemnation" of this act from the GOP any day now.
Coupled with a longer statement about how Democrats have views that for some people necessitate their murders and so we need to ratchet down the murders but also the rhetoric about Trans people being humans, etc.
ReverendIrreverenceIf it looks like a cop, drives a car like a cop and knows how to talk like a cop to get into a Minnesota house "guarded" by cops then it is not "an impersonator" it is a cop
Is it too late/soon to blame radical leftists?
The "no kings" event in northeast Minnesota was canceled, and Minnesota state police asked people to stay away from public demonstrations while a suspect is on the loose.
hahahaha no, the protests are precisely about this kind of violence being normalized, which the police as an institution and societal class can only benefit from, but not us.
Catoblepaswhile a suspect is on the loose.
Personally I would not want to go to the leftist protest when a dude assassinating politicians is being hunted by the cops. If they’re killing Democrats, killing protestors probably is not even a leap in their mind.
If not wanting to be gunned down in public by some brain poisoned spree shooter that’s targeting Democrats makes me a fake leftist or whatever I’ll take it.
You sound like a coward to me, which is fine, but do no try to convince others to be equally cowardly.
No, fill the streets up with joy, the police will never be any help with bringing justice to the source of these crimes anyways whoever the shooter turns up to be.
When stochastic terrorism happens, yes I think it is important to catch the perpetrator and bring them to justice, but I will not be seduced into thinking the terrorist was unique or sourcing the power and permission for that act of terror solely from a twisted interior. No, this is the act of "sacrifice" rightwing people have been calling for.. openly for awhile now and as such I will interpret it that way.
FingolfinzIt’s not bigger news because the media serves the puppet masters of capitalism
How is this not bigger news?
Because, like everything, what's important only depends on which news network you watch.
https://www.news9.com/story/684dace4a1153dbb612a5b30/minnesota-shooting-suspect-manifesto-found
How did law enforcement know to go to Melissa Hortman's home?
Bruley said his department assisted the Champlin Police Department, and an "intuitive sergeant" decided to check on Rep. Melissa Hortman's home in Brooklyn Park to be proactive.
They just knew to go to the house of some politician on "intuition?" Seems a little sus IMO.
geneva_convenienceSoo what is the motive?
One possible motive is that the Minnesota legislature had a one-seat majority for the Democrats. Shooting two Democratic representatives might have been an attempt to change the math.
Terrorism, I would expect. Let's see if a suspect is apprehended and charged under Minnesota law as such, since they have a terrorism law on the books.
Well, yeah, but what is the motive for the terrorism, I mean.
Terrorism is violence with a political goal. So what is the political goal of this?
To discourage anyone slightly left of bat-guano insane evangelical right from running or legislating against bat-guano insane evangelical right agendas, I would imagine, but I can be wrong.
2 killed (dem rep and husband), 2 others shot (dem rep and husband), a shootout at a home the cops 'proactively' visited, and the guy gets away out the back door, the cops post pics of the no kings protest flyers, on X.
Nothing odd about that at all.
Banned
Who got killed? Are they behind any legislation one way or the other that would make them targets?
And it starts...
I'm not sure why you think it's not big news. I've seen a few dozen different news articles posted about it today
You know what’s fucked up is that I don’t even have to look. I can tell you right now that the victims in this crime are part of the Democratic party. You know how I know? Because the FBI director and the president are talking about prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law and how violence in America will never be acceptable.
But if it was the other way around and a Democrat went nuts and killed a Republican senator Donald Trump would be on truth social calling for that person to be hung or stretched or quartered or whatever it is they did to people in the middle ages.

Not just that, but he would be demonizing the whole Democrat party, saying how their dangerous rhetoric caused this and the party needs to be outlawed and its leaders arrested.
This right here — as the if the Republican Party has done nothing to inspire violence
Edit for clarity
Just look at what they're doing to our boy Luigi
It's the democratIC party.
Even worse, I’m sure when they catch this guy, trump is going to pardon him.
Trump cannot pardon state crimes. Murder is a state crime, not federal.
My assumption is that if Luigi is getting charged at the federal level for killing one random, rich white guy, this person who has killed two politicians and has a hit list for others, would be charged at the federal level for terrorism. At least I’d expect that in a normal, functional society, which we’re not.
18 US Code 1751 says that assassination of political officials can be tried in federal court
This isn't just assassination, it's terrorism designed to scare opponents of Trump from speaking out. The media won't say that, of course, because it's likely the shooter is white.
More like your generic antiabortion terrorist
Exactly that. Also, don't forget that every chance they get they say "a man posing as a police officer" and they then describe that he was dressed exactly like a cop including a badge and cop car
Good grief, could they whitewash this any harder?
It's also done on no kings day so we all know what the headline will be. Doesn't seem like a coincidence on reflection.
They even canceled the Minnesota No Kings over this shit
The Minnesota No Kings rally was NOT cancelled because of this. There were thousands of people at the Capitol
It was planned to be a distraction so news coverage wouldn't focus on all the protests today. Can't show bigger crowds in rural America than whatever few bootlickers showed up to watch Trump's birthday parade.
yea they need good sound bytes for fox, oan and newsmax, cant have them protesting news all the time. it makes trump look really bad.
The details of this story are horrifying. The assassin went to the houses of two different lawmakers in the middle of the night (2am). Dressed as a cop.
In the dark, the people in each house had no reasonable way to know that the person ringing their doorbell at 2am was not a cop. Presumably he shot whoever came to the door then entered the house and shot the other spouse.
There's no way the people who were shot could have reasonably prevented being killed
So, just like the 9/11 hijacking changes everything about how people respond to a hijacking event, this changes everything about answering your door. You see someone dressed as a cop at your door, you don't answer the door. You call 911, then have then identify the name and badge number of the cop at your door and you don't answer the door until 911 acknowledges its a real cop at the door.
Don't answer anyway, if they have a warrent they will come in regardless.
They come in without one all the time, and just get a bit of PTO for it, courtesy of we the people.
I'd bet anything the police and media response to this is and will be orders of magnitude less than when that healthcare guy got clapped.
Insurance guy. The healthcare is what he was denying.
Well said…
The fact we have to clarify this distinction…
Pretty sure they were throwing “assassinated” in the headlines very early on there where this is just a “shooting” even though Tim Walz has already declared it a politically motivated assassination.
Nationally maybe, but not in Minnesota.
Or even just in comparison to the "violent ice protests"
My very first thought was about Luigi and thinking if this guy is found alive he likely won’t have any serious response. It seems they have a suspect but the dude was clearly wearing a mask so idk how they determined that
1) https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/speaker-emerita-melissa-hortman-husband-killed-rep-john-hoffman-and-wife-also-shot/
1) https://abcnews.go.com/US/2-minnesota-lawmakers-shot-targeted-incident-officials/story?id=122840751
1) https://www.axios.com/local/twin-cities/2025/06/14/minnesota-lawmakers-shot-targeted-attacks
1) https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/leaked-trump-dhs-memo-warned-of-attacks-like-minnesota-shootings-just-months-ago/
1) https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-lawmakers-shot-d7983e1e4f1a7573a487cab1a98cd172
1) https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-06-14/minnesota-gov-tim-walz-former-house-speaker-melissa-hortman-and-husband-killed-in-politically-motivated-shooting
It's on Frontpage CNN and The Guardian.
Thanks, I was looking the sub and all the top posts I see where about the protests, Israel v Iran, and the orange man's ego parade
Yeah, there's just a lot happening right now. You'd think this would at least rise above the ego parade, but :shrug:.
It raises above. Any news needs time to spread.
Anyone want to bets that it was a Nazi who did the shooting?
He is an evangelistic Christian
So a Nat-C.
He was dressed as a cop, driving a police car, wearing a blue uniform, and a bulletproof vest.
Is he a cop then? The cop car part is confusing otherwise. Uniform etc. not so much.
Edit: I see elsewhere that the car was disguised too
“Disguised” we’ve willingly made police cars so obscure they don’t stand out anymore. Here in Maine every car could be a cop car.
There's one in my town that is black. With black writing on it that says police. The only way to see the text is to see the difference in sheen between the paint and the writing.
it should be very illegal
Yeah, cops call this ghost marking. They do it to skirt around the laws regarding marked vs unmarked vehicles. Unmarked vehicles have stricter requirements, so cops ghost mark their vehicles and say “look, they’re technically not unmarked, so they don’t have to follow all of those stricter rules.”
Then they’ll check your window tint with their expert window tint detector flashlight.
Yeah, every time they get a new upgrade over here it’s even harder to detect. But it’s part of the uniform. Should stand out and be hard to replicate.
Start calling 911 when you get pulled over to confirm it’s a real officer and really just make it a headache for him and they’ll go back to normal.
“Hi I’m just calling to verify this unmarked pulling me over is a real officer” they will get the picture after a couple of thousand of those
In Minnesota?
Cop cars are very distinct. Big white and black SUVs with guard rails and big ass lights. They look like they're going to run you over fun. I call em intimidation transports.
This isn't completely accurate. I live in South Saint Paul and some of our police have Ford Explorers with no visible light bars and dark blue lettering on black paint.
I've seen state patrol make stops on 494 between the Wakota bridge and 35E in dark blue unmarked chargers.
They're relatively new I think but that same trend of low-profile police cars has started here now too.
I think I've seen an unmarked cop SUV in St Paul before, maybe it was one of yours, or maybe it was this fucker?
Goddamnit. Would explain the lack of police cruisers I've seen up there.
Yeah spend all this money on tanks and shit, then they’re gonna drive around in a Hyundai?
We have three different colors of Ford escapes with very discreet light bars. They look like every other fucking Ford escape on the road or whatever those stupid SUVs are. So every Karen looks like a cop and every cop looks like a Karen.
Yeah I've been looking at them since @LilBOkChoy said something. They must be newer. They are quite literally impossible to see.
Seems appropriate for a police state though. China must be jelly of them
No, he and his wife ran a security firm that said it owned the same vehicles as used by the police
Qualified immunity coming in 3, 2, 1....
Tell me you don't know what qualified immunity is without telling me you don't know that qualified immunity is.
Edit: Seems like a lot of people don't know what qualified immunity is.
Qualified immunity means a cop can't be personally liable in civil litigation for legal actions taken while doing their job.
It has nothing to do criminal prosecution when they break the law. It basically just means you have to sue the police department, not the cop.
He feared for his life. They were coming right for him.
I'm not sure what that has to do with being protected from a civil lawsuit.
Tell me you didn't get the joke without telling me.
Qualified immunity
The joke being that the suspect was an offer who showed up, claimed that their life was in danger, and shot everyone to death. The officer will then use qualified immunity as a defence to an extrajudicial killing.
Right, but the joke is based on the misconception that qualified immunity means immunity from prosecution, which is false.
Spreading misinformation is always bad.
Right... You just clarified that they're immune to civil litigation. And we all know they won't be charged criminally. So what we're saying is that they get off scot free.
Those where in Europe, they have since rebranded themselves to wearing red hats
Some of them call themselves Nazis.
Guess I have one thing in common...
That's funded up, but unsurprisingly expected
Black rappers are calling themselves nazis and selling swastica t-shirts on Super Bowl commercials.
Boycott RHEL!
wait, what? Really? Oh..
This just in: This may not be related to RHEL
As someone who works for Red Hat, I really wish it would have been any other color that Trump chose.
Yeah, trends in politics and culture really shafted the brand.
- Nothing wrong about red hats if it wasn't for Maga.
- Nothing wrong with fedoras if it wasn't for 4chan incels 15 years ago.
Now I'm curious if it'd be possible to rebrand to GreenBeanie. It has a nice ring to it.
Fedoras were Redditors, not 4channers. The idea was that you had guys who thought they were dressing nice by wearing a cheap fedora and like cargo shorts.
4chan incels don’t leave the house.
M'lady
I mean, you’re now owned by IBM who did help the Nazi’s… seems like it’s come full circle!
Well, if you're going to start listing the US firms that helped Nazi Germany, we're going to be here all day.
Basically any company that existed back then.
I was going to be here all day anyway :(‘
100%
On reddit they said it was a evangelical pastor, go figure
Guaranteed.
Reporting in from Minnesota: State law enforcement is now telling everybody "Do not show up to No Kings Day Events"
Sen. Walz posted on Bluesky for people to not go to protests and there were 400 comments of mostly people saying they were going anyways. Was nice to see.
Walz is governor. His statement is intentional. He needs to be seen as "giving good advice".
He knows it won't stop anyone. Just like during the George Floyd protests. He knows what he's doing.
Thank you for this comment. I live in Minnesota and expect that if they believe there's a safety concern this is what they should be saying.
Of course we're still going to go but it's only right for our representatives to make sure we, as Minnesotans, can make that decision with full understanding of the safety risks.
Trump is a larger safety concern than any single gunman. They should frame it in that context imo.
Some people will get busted up and arrested if not worse. We'd all be safe and sound just sitting at home, watching TV and flipping through tiktok, for some time, until we can't breathe, we're forced out of our homes because we can't afford them or we're in the way of a golf course, we lose our kids because we told them a man can love another man, we can't go anywhere because every road is busted or costs money to use, our profession becomes non-existent from AI doing everything, and we die of cancer because health insurance is "our own responsibility" as is navigating insurance bureaucracy.
Yeah, a nice sitcom would hit the spot.
Proud of you Minnesota
Fuck that. It's ok to be scared, but try to fight back.
Thousands went anyway
As they fucking should.
You don't need permission to protest. If they try to stop you, protest harder and escalate accordingly
I went to my local one (not in MN) after reading this news, and I brought my pistol.
My support and sympathy to the families. Absolutely no surprise at any of that news.
Do we need to mention that they were both democratic politicians? Many of us would love to see the list of the others he was going to kill. I'm sort of thinking they were all Democrats.
if they were a Republican it would be screamed everywhere about how liberals are using violence
Apparently, they're still screaming about how liberals are using violence. Nucking futz.
Yeah, the tone I am seeing in conservative spaces about this has shifting to the gunman being a CIA operative to smeer conservatives.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/minnesota-shooting-maga-conspiracy-theory
"LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!"
I think it was the Pro Left that had a recent podcast about how the Democrats are set up as the balancing force that is always put into the position of an abused housewife that must mollify the crazy alcoholic husband, which is the Republicans.
Pretty apt metaphor, and I'm not doing it justice, but it's pretty much considered "normal" for Republicans to do and say nearly anything, and then everyone blames the Democrats for making the Republicans do what they do...it's all DARVO.
it was, there was a list being mentioned on a subreddit, it includes tim walz, and others, plus abortion workers.
The article said his hit list included about 70 targets, ALL Democrats.
This morning's update identified him as a part-time pastor and a part-time military contractor. Sure sounds like a raging conservative to me.
Ah, like they did with the violent perpetrators of the January 6th insurrection, until you pardoned them all and set them free.
Wonder if the perp will turn out to be a pardoned j6er...
It's kind of crazy that one of my thoughts was that I hope this gets tried as a state case so Trump can't pardon them.
It's on the news in Belgium.
Greetings from Antwerp. Our results are in...
I’m curious, how are they reporting it?
Headline translated: in the US state of Minnesota, police are on the hunt for the 57 year old shooter who shot 2 Democratic politicians and their spouse in their homes. Two victims have died.
The attacs seem politically motivated. A list of names of politicians was found in the suspects car.
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2025/06/14/twee-democratische-politici-doodgeschoten-in-amerikaanse-staat-m/
This is from a national news site. I haven't seen their television news of today yet but usually their television news and the site story are identical.
I'm not saying the news reporting here is not colored a bit, but it tends to be non sensationalist so there is that.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/13/us/video/florida-sheriff-warns-protesters-we-will-kill-you-digvid
Tell me why I shouldn't think it was an actual police officer that assassinated them ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/minnesota-shootings-gunman-suspect.html
I heard that he even was in a police car. He had a badge and taser and vest etc... it really does feel like it actually is a police officer
A reporter who saw the vehicle said that it would look like a police vehicle from a distance and at night, but during the day it looked off, like you'd think 'that might not be a real cop'.
And they've identified the suspect and he's not a cop.
New information shows it was a security company run by evangelicals that he worked for. So his vehicle likely was intentionally looking like police. Could even have lights on top. And they could wear uniforms, carry most anything a cop can, the badge would be different, but at 2am..
Edit: the vehicle did have lights, and a ram on the front like police SUVs have. Also a photo of him shows him looking like an officer. Long navy sleeves, black vest with lights/utility
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/minnesota-shootings-gunman-suspect.html
Of course that's the name of their company.
A blues brother?
Was probably on a mission from god.
Supply Side Jesus isn't real no matter how hard they believe their magat church pastor.
That's why the Blue's Brothers weren't in it directly for the money. They just needed to save the ophanage.
Sort of....
I don't think he hates Illinois Nazi's though.
"suspect" fall guy for the cop.
He ran a security business.
Ah yes, rent a cop
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
Sure sounds like MAGA is trying to start a hot civil war.
Going to be interesting when these people find out liberals are well armed and trained.
TBH, I seriously considered going strapped to the protest today. But I think I'd rather be a martyr than be the guy who shot someone at the protest even if it was to defend myself and my fellow protestors. At least that's my thinking now while violence is unlikely in my town. If violence gets more prevalent and more expected, I might change my mind.
I respect the thought you put into it, and it sounds like the right choice, for the time being at least. Hopefully it stays that way...
I’m proud of you for thinking critically, we need more of that in the world. Thank you hoppy spider guy.
That was my exact thinking this morning as well. My state allows concealed carry without a permit, so I could legally go with my carry... but I thought better of it. I didn't expect any violence where I'm at, and it just seemed like it wasn't worth the risk, being the cause of more harm than good. It kinda went against the spirit of this protest imo, so I left it at home
Fuck it, I'm not that scared of dying that I gotta go strapped everywhere to feel safe. There's a time and place for carrying, and the protest wasn't one of them for me
It’s been funny when they’ve come up to me calling me the f word because I’m clearly queer and then I flash my piece at them and they get white in the face and back the fuck off me real quick
Yeah, flashing your piece at them does indeed strike me as a tad gay ;-)
lol nice. In all seriousness though, magats are always disgusting human beings who are very ugly inside and outside so they’d never get my dick
Same. I've actually turned down closeted Republican men who didn't hesitate to tell me that they essentially wanted me to be their stay at home girlfriend... As a grown ass man. Fuck all that.
Yeah they’re fucking pathetic humans who just can’t embrace who they are and seem to think we’re even remotely fucking attracted to them
Good for you!!! It's a pity that the shitheads harass you though.
Yeah it’s not really a great experience to go through
I support your right to put them 6feet under if they take it beyond verbal. But be careful, they can lie and get you targeted by the police. But I’m sure you’re ready to deal with that.
Yeah for sure, I’m well versed with the laws so I can cover my ass in anything and always show way more restraint than I probably need to but yeah I prefer to keep it more on the dl that I’m carrying just to keep the pigs off me
Keywords.
Flash my piece - white in the face - fuck - real quick
Yes I’ve been informed of the joke like five times now, I’m glad you can keep finding the humor in homophobes harassing me to the point that I have to show them the gun I have in my waistband since I have to be so fucking specific
In case no one told you over and over, the piece is innuendo for penis
Best be careful doing that. Flashing your gun is called brandishing and is illegal in most cases. You only show your gun when you are ready to fire it.
What piece are you talking about? Statement makes sense either way.
Use context clues
Maybe they're worried you'll club them to death with your massive penis
Yeah that could be but I’m assuming it’s the Glock that’s next to it that sends them running
Yah, we're on the interweb. For all I know he could be Drath'nor.
That's brandishing and it's going to get you arrested
People are getting kidnapped off the street. Use the strap on whoever tries to "arrest" you
It’s brandishing if I’m instigating, which is not the case, but not so much when I’m being approached in a threatening manner being called slurs and I’m at a point of self defense
Just be careful,.don't want you to get hurt
Appreciate it, yeah I practice as much restraint as I can and never do anything outside a defensive standpoint. I already wasn’t a fan of having society come to this point where I felt I need one but unfortunately here we are but I think that has made me make sure to be responsible about it since my intentions are defensive
The troubles started similarly from a politically motivated assassination by the UVF. Alongside violent responses from authority during peaceful civil rights marches and the deployment of the British army.
If a civil war starts, you likely won't know you're in one until much later.
We’re in one. It already started.
Like I said, I sure hope I don't have to. But I will arm myself if things get to that point. This does remind me that I should go to the range and practice more.
It's always the magas inciting violence. Rushing to violence is a side effect of ignorance.
If you're looking for a civil war, you'd be a fool to think the Magas aren't better prepared for base violence.
I personally man handled service members as a security guard in a military port town. I know where I stand. They can be as violent as possible. I can get even more crazier. And at that point. I break out the instant kill moves a dead SEAL friend taught me as my last resorts.
They’re preparing for dooms day... They’re fulfilling their own prophecy. I’m in a red area and I just saw an ad about getting a permit to concealed carry. Guns aren’t allowed here.
I keep hearing this. What are y’all waiting for, things to get bad?
What do you think they should do? Go to Minnesota and wack two Republicans to balance the legislature back out?
If they were as tiny minded and reactionary as you, I guess so ;)
This is big news. Google it.
More info on him:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/minnesota-shootings-gunman-suspect.html
Oh the irony
Praetorian Guard. A notorious unit of body guard troop who are mostly known for extorting and killing the people they were supposed to be protecting.
What a great name for a body guard company.
How convenient. House is a 67-67 D and R. State Senate 34 D 33 R. Not political at all this assassination......
Even the article explicitly says this is politically motivated, this isn’t being presented as random
it was kinda obvious since it was targeting democrats only, and abortion providers.
Are there actually no safeguards against this? It seems like a pretty big fucking flaw in a democratic system if you can kill the opposing elected officials in order to gain control of the state. Like their votes should temporarily go to someone else in the party or something, not just be wiped out completely.
someone mentioned that in subreddit, yea they want to break that tie, but it would be whoever is control that appoints a special interim though.
Time for real Americans to start dealing with the traitors in and out of our government.
Terrorism. Call it what it is.
It seems they have updated the title to say assassination.
Convenient for the Trump administration that the (non-Fox) news is going to talk about this all day instead of the millions of people protesting him all across the country.
With the news cycles being 24/7 these days, there's no reason they can't talk about both. Blame them for being shit.
its on purpose, because the owners of all the MSMs are conservatives, just look who owns it
Meanwhile, Fox News and CNN are creaming themselves over Israel and Iran.
Fox "Israel under attack"
CNN "Israel reels from deadly Iranian missile strikes"
and his failure of a birthday parade too. plus trying to make the public forget about the BBB and tariffs sitll.
Impersonating a police officer or a disgruntled police officer. Irregardless, the uniform alone will get one close to the target. The USA is a sick country and the fucks in MAGA will make it worse.
It’s super illegal to impersonate police too
Can't seem to find the 'reply' button on any comments in any threads anymore, they musta changed something... so I gotta create a top level comment now to reply.
"So, just like the 9/11 hijacking changes everything about how people respond to a hijacking event, this changes everything about answering your door. You see someone dressed as a cop at your door, you don’t answer the door. You call 911, then have then identify the name and badge number of the cop at your door and you don’t answer the door until 911 acknowledges its a real cop at the door."
IDK about you but after you don't answer the door, I wouldn't be calling 911, I'd be playing possum with a fucking loaded gun waiting to go off if the front door opens or waiting for them to leave. The guy didn't say he had a warrant, and if the police have a warrant just one cop isn't going to be there, it'll be a Pride of LEOs.
Also, since the article doesn't mention it, deliberately of course, they were both Democrats. One was the speaker of the house.
It kind of goes without saying tbh.
They did mention it though?
Wasn't in the original article, glad it was added.
Probably a fast developing story.
So...terrorism.
"We have to remain non-violent"
Meanwhile, the far right nutjobs
It is wild right-wingers are trying to paint the killer as left wing. Trump cultist prove they can't comprehend anything. RIP to both of the victims.
I mean...according to this, both primary suspect shooter & his wife were directly appointed by Tim Walz. You don't get too much further left than Tim Walz.
I want to know how they were working for Tim Walz, deeply associated with left wing, but not left wing themselves. It does happen, sometimes, I'm open to discussion.
Ah yes. The “liberal hivemind” Youtube channel. A reputable source of information and news.
https://youtu.be/Q3oIMHsbVAg
Wonder how the moron in charge is going to not condemn this.
Look at what Antifa did!
They are already blaming democrats.
"impersonating" a police officer. Yup, on the largest protest day ever. No need to think more about it. Surely it wouldn't be an actual cop using a scapegoat, nope .
If we don't know who did it, how do we know it was impersonation??
Well they found the vehicle and it was a non-police vehicle disguised as police. So while this doesn’t 100% rule out it being police, it seems a reasonable inference.
Suuuuuure. And next you will tell me no authoritarian government uses fake emergency vehicles.
He was only dressed fully as a cop with full gear and had a car that looked like a cop car with lights and all.
Clearly an ANTIFA shenanigan /s
Edit: Ehhh pretty close
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Police say suspect dressed as law enforcement and shot at responding officers before escaping
I’m just gonna say. Might the suspect have been a police officer? I wouldn’t trust the police to disclose that.
I mean if they are wearing a uniform and emerged from a cop car as eyewitness accounts suggest…
The gunman was still at large, law enforcement said on Saturday, and the city of Brooklyn Park was still under a shelter-in-place order. The shooter was impersonating a police officer, dressed in a uniform that would appear to be real to most people, police said.
“They did drive a vehicle that looked exactly like an SUV squad car,” Brooklyn Park’s police chief, Mark Bruley, said at a press conference. “It was equipped with lights, emergency lights, that looked exactly like a police vehicle, and yes, they were wearing a vest with Taser, other equipment, a badge very similar to mine, that, no question, if they were in this room, you would assume that they are a police officer.”
Hmmmmmmmm~~
"Evangelical Terrorist targets minnisota politicians for assassination, 2 dead, 2 wounded"
They should revoke the church's tax exemption for radicalizing this guy
when can we start shooting back?
I live in a "stand your ground" state. I'm not answering the door for police in the middle of the night. And if they break in, I'm opening fire. That's the lessen I've learned from this madness. ACAB is and always will be.
Now would be a good time. The longer fascism festers the harder it is to get rid of.
Ooops, TACO sent the military to the wrong place to protect people. He is weak,incompetent, corrupt.
Because the world is burning and everyone is along for the ride.
Kind of strange, these don’t seem like the high profile people that usually attract the nutters. Almost wonder if it was personal but apparently the guy had a whole list so that might be less likely.
They may be locally high priority profile, someone the nutters have a more connected beef with
Minnesota had a 1 seat democrat majority. Now it's a 1 seat republican majority
In the House, and a one seat Democratic majority in the Senate with a Democratic governor.
Also, the area where these Reps are from is pretty blue. The Twin Cities metro, Duluth and Rochester are typically the big three pockets of blue, as that's where most of the states population is.
Oh shit I hadn’t thought of that aspect.
No worries, I also just found that out while searching who they where... also, happy cake day
They will likely appoint a dem while a runoff occurs, but yes this could theoretically flip that state house.
Media frenzy for this event will make a great distraction from the cancellation of the shit show military parade / ego stroke.
Otherwise they may actually have to cover those nationwide protests with millions of attendees planned. Their corporate masters wouldn't like that.
A little too convenient.
They cancelled the parade? I hadnt heard, but im also intentionally not paying attention to it
Honestly this is scarier than something bad happening in either of those two other events. But I agree... as they say "the revolution will not be televised"
State law enforcement here in Minnesota has told protesters not to come. All politicians who were scheduled to speak will not be showing up.
Wanna bet that a curfew is next?
I'll take that bet. Of course state law enforcement and Governor Walz will say that. They have multiple unidentified, as far as we know, people running from law enforcement who have shown no compunction with using deadly force and seem to have intentions that run contrary to the protests.
Do you actually think any of us are really going to stay home? That's not who we are. The Minnesotans that would be going in the first place represent what true Minnesotans are and won't be dissuaded by this.
Other article said all 201 members of the state legislature are in protective custody. I have been wondering what that exactly means.
Democratic leaders should have bodyguard details that they have personally chosen outside of the Federal framework. The violence will keep escalating, both stochaostic and direct.
In this political environment yes... but generally no public figure (including the president) should need a security detail
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I went to the protest in Chaska. The terrorists didn't win
The Saint Paul one happened and still has speakers going right now! You can still protest!
THIS is what should happen.
This is what the murderer wanted. To scare us. Canceling the protest will encourage more of this violence. I went to a protest today anyway and it was the largest we've ever had in my town. Grow a pair and get out there. Democracy and freedom aren't free and demand that we sacrifice to protect and maintain it.
Shut the fuck up 👍
More defeatism to fulfill that self-fulfilling prophecy... 🙄
Sorry, we just had a baby and news of a shooter being loose and governor declaring a state of emergency freaked us out. Just trying to share how it feels in the moment. I will make up for it, thank you for the encouragement!
That's why it's so important that old farts like me get out there and fight so people like you, who have a lot more to lose, won't have to. This is a battle/war that us old ones can actually participate to save our young.
Tens of thousands showed up where I was at. The terrorists will not win.
Sorry, I'm just really frustrated to see it being repeated. But I understand if you're concerned about the baby! My bad, but please please go if you can. 🙏
Truly sad.
People shouldn't bend over and take it. Arm the fuck up and defend against it. Don't concede defeat before you even try to fight
Sorry, but you didn't mention your investments and shooting regimen. Give people a template so they can best be like you.
Armchair, right?
Nice ad hominem you got there. That's all you're capable of instead of actually arguing against what I said? Additionally, I don't need to provide anything about my personal routine to justify my argument. I don't owe you or anyone that. If you want those things, the Internet is available for you to peruse at your leisure to educate yourself. My point still stands.
Or, don't arm up, don't learn to defend against what is coming and just give up. Go turn yourself over to the gestapo and save everyone the trouble of dealing with you and your pessimistic attitude.
You let them win.
This is the headline on every major news outlet, even Fox News
Can't stand when people ask that. Get out of your media bubble and stop asking stupid questions.
maintain the same energy as the Luigi situation 💜
An incredibly disgusting act.
Watch, this will be the alt-right’s Luigi
I'm going to call the soon to be obvious 'gunman shot by police/himself or hung himself with his hands tied behind his back'. Nothing more to see here.
Gunman identified when he showed his drivers license to a McDonald's cashier, a completely normal and everyday occurrence that happens all the time to poor people and no we aren't making this up, why do you ask?
Why does he look like Ryan Gosling wearing that mask in Drive?
Republican pearl clutching in 3....2....1......
moving the goal post"oh they deserve it, or the shooter was a democrat,," or such nonsense.
If you're going to throw your life away, why state reps?
Cause real change happens at the local level... super fucked that it happened in this way. Its insane the amount of changes lone wolf terrorists can cause with guns and we are so far gone as a country we dont even talk about common sense gun law, because we are so fucking desensitized to the onslaught of terror. I hate it here.