Peaceful… until the cops show up and get violent with the protestors.
Bingo. Cops excel in escalation.
They’re thoroughly trained in deescalation tactics, then use inverse language to justify self defense and charges.
Honestly that’s kinda optimistic compared to reality.
Warrior cop training needs to fucking stop.
this is what always makes me insane. police presence inherently increases tension because oh now here’s a gang of jackbooted thugs with guns and tasers and the power to ruin your life and/or murder you and get away with it, just hangin out. just tryna keep people safe.
i mean that shit must only work on the boomeriest boomers, right? that would only help at a particularly rowdy Kenny Chesney concert
It kind of sucks that having literal video proof of how it all went down doesn’t actually matter. They just say whatever they want, and so many people will never look into it, just take their word.
I suppose hurling racial slurs at Jewish students doesn’t constitute violence.
Anecdotes so few and far between, meanwhile the anti-zionist movement is absolutely flooded with jewish voices. A narrative to dismiss protests, designed to resists hard evidence…like the article you are ignoring here.
Too bad Biden and other “moderates” Dems care about as much about facts and logics as trump does.
Their donors want them to shit on protestors, so that’s what they’ll do.
Biden’s going to fuck around and let trump win because he can’t stand up to Israel.
[serious] why are there so many ‘moderate’ biden stans on this site (not you, but generally)? i thought lemmy was the sort of leftist reddit alternative
Because it’s a misrepresentation of people defending Biden and leftist in general.
Just because someone defends Biden doesn’t mean they support him. There’s a lot of hyperbolic invective being directed at him. And he definitely has himself to blame for some of it. Expediting CONGRESS’S shipment of arms to Israel. And trying to stay as neutral and diplomatic as possible in the face of the horrors Israel is unleashing.
It seems suspicious how narrow the focus is on him however. With literally no one pestering their Congress critters who could actually do something about all of this. Sure we should pressure Biden to lead better. But if people actually wanted to get things done and not just virtue signal, they’d be yelling at Congress more.
And finally leftist != accelerationist. Some, like ML know their ideology isn’t an actual improvement over capitalism. That the only way they could convince people to switch to their ideology is to destroy and degrade things much like capitalists do to other countries. But plenty of us lefties think both of them are wrong and pragmatically try to work to make things better.
Biden is the face of the Democrats. He is the president of the country and the supposedly strongest leader in the world.
Of course the focus is on him. In the same way when you talk about the French government the focus is on Macron, or talking about Ukraine it is Zelensky, talking about Germany it is Scholz and talking about China it is Xi.
All of these have different levels of formal power, all of them have different political systems, but all of them are expected to lead, to organize their political power and to take responsibility for the work of their administrations.
Biden has supported the protests and only condemned breaking the law and antisemitism along with Islamophobia. Which as president, he should. Specifically he spoke out when protesters took over Hamilton Hall.
condemned breaking the law
really novel stuff here. thank god we have a competent president there to say breaking the law is bad
also
We can never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was “legal” and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was “illegal.” It was “illegal” to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler’s Germany. But I am sure that if I had lived in Germany during that time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers even though it was illegal. If I lived in a Communist country today where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I believe I would openly advocate disobeying these anti-religious laws.
- As of right now he is still blocking that dumb bomb weapon shipment.
Should he have done it sooner? Absolutely, but it is a step at least, now let’s see what happens when push comes to shove.
I may just be to cynical at this point but I don’t trust that at all. It’s just a pause.
Biden has structured that block as a “Type 2” decision. It creates the illusion of standing up to Israel but it allows him to instantly and unilaterally completely reverse it as soon as public attention has shifted.
Given history, I expect that’s exactly what will happen. Once the IDF murders enough people in Rafah, they’ll be “done”. Then they can pretend that they’ve turned over a new leaf and definitely won’t do any more genocide. Biden will congratulate them and resume all the weapons shipments, including sending the stuff that’s currently being held back.
Short of restructuring this as a “Type 1” decision, there’s little reason to think this is anything beyond theatrics.
Like I said, let’s what happens when push comes to shove
They’ve already started shooting into Rafah. That was the safe zone they told everyone to go to.
What push or shove are we waiting for? The start of the full scale invasion? The conclusion of a full scale invasion? Is there some number of civilians deaths that would be too much?
