Quokk.auPlasma 6.4: IMO, THE BEST Linux desktop environment right now
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luxliminalSteam Deck made me fall back in love with KDE, and it's what I use with Arch on my desktop now. Second favorite is probably Cinnamon.
Try as I might I just can't with Gnome.
The nice thing about GNOME is that you immediately get it, on a fundamental level that is. The not so nice thing is that lots of stuff is an add-on, and it's entirely possible installing the wrong one will brick your desktop
amorpheusI disagree that Gnome is intuitive on a fundamental level. They're trying the Apple way of UI design without the millions in R&D.
I get it, but maybe the same way I get driving on the other side of the road, or writing with my non-dominant hand: I can do it, and maybe I could get used to it or even be efficient with it, but it's unfamiliar and far from being second nature to me.
I always feel gnome is more fitting for laptop or tablet. KDE on my desktop.
Just seem to be different use cases.
Did give it a go a few months ago, but was a bit congitively heavy with lots of menus and reading.
If you like clicking I think it's pretty nice with everything in reach + more.
CommunistHate to say it but no, hyprland really is unless you need a windows like experience/don't want to configure anything.
Gemini24601A love Hyprland, but KDE Plasma does so many things for you and saves time. If you want to change screen resolution in Hyprland, you need to check the wiki or man. In Plasma, you simply use the settings app. Each environment has its own purpose, and Plasmaβs is for general purpose use.
"Unless you don't want to configure anything"
KDE Plasma has proven to be one of the most customizable desktop environments available. Theming is easily achievable with the versatility of QT, (which is technically on Hyprland but more versatile in a full QT desktop), as well as the versatility of panels that can be moved and modified to whatever you wish for them to be. External plugins or programs like Latte dock, or the Plutonium tile manager further expand on Plasmaβs capabilities. Hyprland is also customizable, but almost only through external sources, making Plasma much more accessible and seamless. Of course there are reasons behind this, but each to their own. Feel free to state your own opinions communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz, but since this is an IMO post (basically opinion of the OP), I think weβd all appreciate it if you were more civilized and detailed as to why you felt the need to shoot down the OP. Also, maybe research your claims before commenting.
It is very customizable, that does not counter my claim and I never claimed it wasn't, but if you're going to get deep into customization a basic wm or compositor will usually be better, simply because they are modular and hyprland is absurdly feature rich.
i don't know why you're saying I didn't research this, or I was uncivilized, I just gave my counter opinion. You are clearly misunderstanding me or reading into things I did not say.
spartanatreyuThat's a fairly useless point to make since everyone will always want to look at what configurable options can be adjusted.
No one would buy a car if they couldn't adjust the seat or mirrors.
Most people do not in fact look at the settings of their computer.
A quick and dirty heuristic to find out is to walk through any central transport station or food court and check:
How many people have customised their phone's lock screen?
sbirdThe beauty of linux is there is options!
Different people prefer different things and you can freely choose between all the things!
Of course, I recommend kde to people who don't want to configure anything and want a windows like experience, but when saying something is the best, as they claim, these qualifiers become important.
best for what?
He means the best in desktop experience when it comes to desktops with the best adoptability.
Hyprland is a compositor, not a desktop environment.
sanderiumRemember about cognitive effort, window managers are for people looking to invest time in learning keybinds and new workflows, Plasma and Gnome do a better job of satisfying a bigger userbase and most workflows are easy to port to another desktop environment.
In my opinion that makes Plasma and Gnome the best desktop environments, no matter how much I prefer standalone window managers.
That's why I said "if you don't want to configure anything"
Well yes, but my point is that one can intuitively can use regular DE's and be productive, the same is not true for window managers. Regardles if one configures or not.
KDE Plasma, well known for its very limited customisation options
I never said it wasn't customizable, I don't know why so many people heard that.
adr1anYou said it's not the best and then mentioned Hyperland as a panacea of customization... It is almost implied. Meanwhile the arguments against you go a little bit in circle. This seems like the typical internet people polarizing themselves. We are all enjoying our distros, text editors, DEs, and WMs. No need to start making up factions at all... But it's way more fun to do so because we are humans and our society conditioned us to this. *shrugs*
I am allowed to have preferences, and I am not making factions, just stating my preference.
i never said anything about hyprland being more customizable, I said it's better if you're willing to configure things, if you don't want to build your setup from scratch kde is great!
i disagree that I even implied what you're saying.
You read my message as an accusation to you, but I was describing everyone else and all the downvotes you got!
Of course you, and anyone else, is entitled to their preferences!! That's the beauty of FLOSS. That's precisely my point.
This was posted 16 minutes ago. Is it still the best DE? Or did I miss it?
Plasma 6.4 will automatically become the best DE whenever you read the title, but ceases to be so, whenever your eyes look at something different. It's the "quantum clickbait"-law of video (and news) titles. So, for the sake of quality assurance, please continue to read the title indefinitely, thank you.
Love this! π€£
Agree. Set my wife up on EndeavorOS on her laptop, and every time I go in to do something I'm impressed.
I'm a tiling, terminal, minimal mouse guy, so it isn't for me, but what I've seen of KDE it's leaps and bounds better than Gnome. Some of the minimal DEs are good if you want lightweight; Cinnamon (or whatever Gnome-on-GTK3 is called) is good, and better than current Gnome, but not in the same league as KDE.
Never understood KDE maxis
I quite like KDE whenever I've used it. But I've broken so many systems by fucking around a bit too much. So I'm on Pop OS which uses a themed Gnome DE. I keep hearing it's easy to install different a different DE, but how do you do it safely and still keep compatibility with your distros updates?
PopOS is Ubuntu LTS so it's only getting ancient KDE Plasma and no, not worth it.
Aside, yes itβs fairly easy, but you might need to change couple of settings regarding theming and then roll back to defaults to un-fuck some desktop theming.
If only there were things such as KDE based distros and Atomic ones.... (Also what does this have to do with KDE)
Sudo apt install plasma plasma-utils.
Sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
Atomic distros require patience that many newbies don't have. The learning curve is not what many expect when they hear about it.
Source: Too many friends with broken atomics because they 'thought it was safer'
I'm not too much of a newbie either. My home server is nixos, it's just not a paradigm I want for my daily use computer :P
Are you serious? You're running nixos but don't know how to change ones DE? You're definitely not a newbie, but your path of development is certainly interesting lol
I blame the llms for all these foundationless positions (am just being old tho)
I mean I've been using Linux for over 15 years. Sure, last time I tried having multiple (and uninstalling) multiple DEs on one machine was probably 10 or so years ago, it just left me with a bad taste in my mouth so I stopped doing it.
How?
I used Fedora and bazzite for a while now and nothing ever happened.