Quokk.auKeir Starmer to announce plans for digital ID scheme
Hossenfefferwww.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g54g6vgpdo
Suck my balls.
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Is he just picking the most odious policy possible?
The leadership are completely out of touch.
NickwithaCIt only took 15 years and the destruction of society but Labour will finally get their ID cards.
Yvette Cooper and Jonathan Reynolds previously ruled this out, and it’s obvious that it will do nothing to prevent immigrants from working illegally. Not to mention that the fact that we don’t allow successful asylum claimants to work is repugnant.
So the question is: who leant on him? Who is it that really wants this? Is Palantir going to get the contract, by any chance?
I think it will be Oracle. They massively fund the Tony Blair Institute, and Blair has always had a love of ID cards.
So Larry Ellison instead of Peter Thiel. Another foreign billionaire who totally has our interests at heart.
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Hanlon’s Razor, sure, but I don’t buy it. He isn’t stupid.
Just like the Online Safety Act, it isn’t going to do much for its stated purpose, but it’s going to be very effective for helping the government find and stop people organising protests.
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It isn’t only a question of political astuteness though. It’s obvious that it won’t work. Only an idiot would think that someone who is prepared to risk their life crossing the channel in a small boat is going to be put off by a digital ID.
I don’t think I want to even consider that he might be dismantling our freedom to appease the far right in the hope that they won’t notice that it hasn’t done anything. I don’t think you call that a lack of political astuteness. That would be rank stupidity.
Guy IngonitoThis guy is such a dicking idiotic loser I am surprised he hasn’t drowned in the toilet
HighlandCowThe more stupid authoritarian anti privacy shite this guy does the more reform is more likely to win the next years election, I think they honestly have a good chance compared to last year’s elections and there opposition to highly hated labour policy’s that the lib Dems nor the conservatives are truly taking seriously
I’m gonna probably have the sus chungus cameo guy as my prime minister
God fuck me man
katy ✨i mean it’s so patently obvious this is a trump idea from their meetig
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AlaknárHonest question: why are people against digital ID? What are the fundamental differences between that and a physical ID?
FlaxWe are also against mandatory physical ID.
Oh, wow! As someone who was born and raised in a country that had IDs for just shy of 100 years - what’s the logic behind that?
The point is that it’s mandatory. There is currently no mandatory ID in the UK
Yeah, I get that, but is just the case of “we’re against it because it’s mandatory”? Like, you’re not against the concept of an ID, just the fact that it’s mandatory?
Why is that? What’s malicious about it?
Yes. The government has no business forcing us to use their mandatory ID for tracking us.
“Tracking”? How do you use an ID for tracking?
I mean, sure, digital ID would allow that in some way (although that’s already fully possible with other means), but a physical ID?
Do you believe that age verification online is to protect children? Likewise for mandatory backdoors to secured data and encryption bans?
Digital id can be abused and controlled in ways a physical id cannot. There are some similarities to the idea of having a ‘cashless society’ but it also has unique problems.
Because a digital id is likely to become much more convenient, it’s not a stretch that it becomes mandatory to verify for services that previously had no need to. You have another reply talking about museums and buses, which you think is ridiculous, but when it becomes so simple to do these things can creep in.
We don’t know the implementation being planned, so it is hard to say for sure - but I don’t want it and believe it should be resisted as strongly as possible.
I agree.
That being said… Internet has changed. What used to be a private, personal space for a bunch of nerds, became yet another aspect of “real life”.
Banks live here, streaming services, whole companies exist solely online, most of the world’s finances is done online, etc., etc.
Unless you pull a Bartmoss’ DataKrash, you cannot go back from that.
And where the money is, crime is. I know I’ll be downvoted for saying this, but it’s just a fact of life: the Internet is being used to hurt a lot of people daily. And we have no means of preventing that.
Digital ID might be a step in the right direction - it would certainly curb the impact that misinformation/rage campaigns using bot networks have.
I remember when the US imposed Internet sanctions on russia, effectively cutting it off from its services (for all of two days before they found ways around it), and the entire r/Conservative became a ghost town. Something like four posts were published in the span of those two days, one of them asking if the whole subreddit is really just bots from russia.
If every user was verified, this wouldn’t be a thing.
And yes, I understand the dangers of letting a government control/see what I’m browsing online. And yes, I understand that the current UK administration is nowhere near capable of designing a system that’s even on the same plane of existence as the solution to the underlying issue.
But I also understand that if we don’t do anything at all, we’ll end up in the same state as the US - broken and divided, with russia reaping the rewards.
At this point I’m convinced he’s deliberately doing everything he can to make himself unpopular.
Someone told me that he is there for the sole purpose of destroying the labour party. Which is ridiculous… isnt it?
So UK’s biggest IT project ever …any chance that it will be delivered on time, within budget and working as intended?
Will the vendor be Fujitsu?
Ah! Nice one… But no, it will be Oracle. They have paid Tony Blair about £250 in the last few to spew their nonsense, and Larry Ellison has spoken loudly about well behaved everyone will be once they can monitor everything we do.
Sounds like a police state paradise.
Fujitsu, you mean like in.. OH NO OH NoooooO!
I’ve heard rumours they are even going to call it the “Brit Card”.
Say no to Starmer Cards and the surveillance state.
It’s one of those things, that if done well, in a privacy respecting way, would be awesome!
…. But they don’t want it to be privacy respecting…..
I’ve heard this rumour for the past 20 years.
Labour tried to introduce it about 20 years ago but it got killed.
Yeah but it took voting in a Tory government to do it. A high price indeed.
Now Reform will start piping up about how they will block this and they’ll get even more votes. Between this and the age verification stuff I’m almost considering voting for them but I can’t stand the idea of Nigel Farage being PM and they keep trying to emulate Trump.
Reform have been pushing hard for electoral ID and migrant worker verification. So im sure this will be a u turn for one of them. But it will be interesting to see witch.
I’ve just been reading the BBC article on it and it says that every other party is against them being compulsory. I don’t think this’ll make it through.
Starmer has an absolute majority.
already in 2nd place on that site the govt ignores https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=open
first now btw
It’s honestly impressive how many bad decisions one government can make.
This will make fuck all difference. Employers already do background checks, I’ve always had to give some kind of ID whenever I’ve started a new job, and there will always been employers that don’t do any checks.
In theory, this should be one of those things that should make accessing services easier, but we all know this will be a foot in the door to more authoritarian bullshit and be yet another opportunity to show government incompetence.
Bullshit