• 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    13 days ago

    If I was buying something, literally anything, and the people I am buying from make me sign a thing that said I couldn’t sell the thing I am buying for X period of time after buying it, that would be a major red flag to me that perhaps this product is actually a huge piece of shit because they’re already worried I will try to get rid of it within X amount of time.

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              What if I think it’d be cool to have a supercar, but the only thing holding me back is the money, but I’m not a dick? I just think they’re neat, but in the event that I’d have enough to afford one, I’d probably still go with something practical. I’ll never have that kind of money anyway, so this is all purely hypothetical.

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            I want a 2008 Miata. A 4 cylinder manual with a couple hundred horsepower that doesn’t weigh very much and has a suspension someone thought about for a little while and a sticker price of $25 grand, and it’ll probably make better gas mileage than the old Buick Century I drive to the store today just on weight alone.

            Like, if you said “2008 Miata, or a Pigani Zonda. Choose one and it’s yours for $25,000, but the terms are you have to own and drive it you can’t just sell it” I’m going for the Mazda.

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                …i have a 2005 elise, a 2008 NC, and a 2017 ND: i try not to be a dick, but my wife says i drive like one…

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                  That sounds like a wonderful collection.

                  How are they? I’m guessing they aren’t your daily driver?

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                Pretty easy and cheap to maintain for the most part, just don’t damage the body cuz that’s where it gets expensive and takes forever to replace, for example, the entire front half which is one piece.

                Had one for two years. LOVED it. Highly recommend, tho a used Cayman may be a more practical and less worrisome alternative

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              Miata is extremely good taste. And getting parts for them seemingly will never be a challenge.

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          What the hell kinda fourth-level, back-alley reasoning went into this?

          Is it because the only people that can afford supercars are rich (i.e. “dicks”)? Or are you saying anyone who likes supercars is a dick?

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                  If my not understanding and calling out the opaque calculations that turn “someone liking cool, fast machines” into a “dick” makes me a dick, then sure. Whatever.

                  I also don’t see how asking about one person’s rationale equates to “defending” another different group of people. But I guess questioning this rationale will make me a double-dick.

                  If you give me two more questionable statements, I can try to get the echidna before I get bored of this.

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        Yeah honestly I wish more products had laws like this. Or, actually, the rule should be you can’t sell it at a higher price within a certain time frame, because that’s a better indicator of scalping.

        I’ve been wanting to buy one of the B580 GPU’s intel released, but as soon as there’s stock it immediately gets bought out and resold on amazon at a 150$ markup. I can’t think of any other rule that would effectively stop this behavior.

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          Nothing made me happier than the photos of BOXES AND BOXES of 20 series Nvidia cards just fucking stacked to the ceiling when the 30 series was released. Or maybe it was 30s when 40s were released. Either way. Get bent, L scalpers.

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      It would have been nice if they had done that with PS5s or concert tickets. It’s less about being forced to keep a crappy item and more about not artificially inflating prices on it (by buying out the stock and reselling).

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        That argument would make sense if anybody was actually scalping swasticars, but they’re currently piling up and rusting away unsold. They really put the cart before the horse.

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    That last part is so dumb. How on earth do you not realize you are buying into a scam pyramid scheme type thing with something like that in the contract.

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    Bought the car just to get attention and you’re getting the attention. I don’t see the problem. You got exactly what you wanted. It’s a fuck ugly car that’s shit quality. You bought it just because you wanted to be noticed. Well, play dumb games, win dumb prizes.

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        More like, idiots destroy our cities and towns with their giant wankpanzers and then they cry like babies when people fight back.

        If you don’t want people to destroy your swatzicar then 1. don’t buy a nazi vehicle and 2. Don’t buy a truck with the highest traffic fatality rate of any vehicle. Your freedom of self expression ends where your choice kills other people

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    Sorry, no sympathy. I have some sympathy for the Tesla owners who bought theirs years ago before Musk went completely mask off. But Musk has been an overt Nazi since the first cybertruck was released. Do you know what you call an Apartheid baby that platforms and massively promotes Nazis in the name of “free speech” while censoring other voices (see ‘cis’ as a slur). You call them a Nazi. Musk has been dealing in overt racism, malignant transphobia, and eugenics for years now. If you simply didn’t care about this, and still gave that many $100k of your money? I’m sorry, but you just gave $100k to a man you knew was a Nazi. You’re a literal Nazi sympathizer. Or, at best, you’re a person who cares so little about fighting Nazis that you will willingly give the nation’s most prominent Nazi a hundred grand.

    So yes, it is absolutely is fair to judge people who bought a cybertruck. They’re Nazi sympathizers. I don’t know if I would personally engage in such vandalism. But if I was on a jury with such a case before me, I would certainly be practicing jury nullification. Some paint or flat tires is a fraction of what a car like that deserves. That thing should be burned to ashes. That is what should really be done to Nazi symbols like the cybertruck. Here in 2025, if you are driving a cybertruck. There is no way for you to have that vehicle without having every chance in the world to see buying it directly supports Nazis. Every cybertruck is already a rolling swastika.

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    Oh man I was a lil thirsty today, thanks for that cup of Nazi tears. Delicious. Hit the spot. Chef’s kiss.

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      Insuring it will be an absolute nightmare. The insurance companies dont care if you bought it cheap.

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        Given how many issues it has had so far, doesn’t that place it on the opposite side of the spectrum from the Hilux? Isn’t this akin to submitting a tiny, rotten tomato into a worlds biggest vegetable competition?

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          For sure, I just mean they like to stick guns in the bed. Don’t tell them how unreliable they are, please.

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      I’m doing research on stainless steel art - what would you say is the most effective house appliance for staining it? Particularly the same stainless steel the swasticar is using.

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        Muriatic acid will etch and corrode stainless quite effectively.

        You should wear gloves and glasses when messing with the stuff. Don’t breathe the fumes, they’re chlorine.

        I would think that a small paintbrush with the acid in a plastic cup would work well for any slogans you might wish to write on sheets of stainless.

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      This is not boycotting, this is assaulting innocent people, but obviously the democrats can’t understand that.

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        Vandalism is not assault, and while buying a swasticar isn’t a crime per se I certainly wouldn’t call the people who bought them innocent. It was never even a good truck. There’s literally no reason to buy one of these things other than to force other people to witness how much of a chode you are.

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    Do I feel bad they bought a shit car with shit terms? No. He should have been smarter.

    Do I feel bad people are targeting his car because of something someone else did? Yes.

    It’s not like he wrapped the car with a bunch of inflammatory imagery like I’ve seen some have. He’s just got his stupid car and people are fucking with it. This doesn’t help crash Tesla. It doesn’t hurt Tesla at all. It’s misdirected.

    Got after Tesla charge stations instead. Go after the dealerships. Go after Elon.

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      It’s not like he wrapped the car with a bunch of inflammatory imagery like I’ve seen some have.

      I would argue that the car itself is inflammatory to anyone who believes he’s a fascist.

      He’s just got his stupid car and people are fucking with it.

      If goebbels had a car company and you bought a car from him, fully knowing he was a Nazi… I would probably say there’s a pretty high chance you are also a Nazi.

      This doesn’t help crash Tesla. It doesn’t hurt Tesla at all. It’s misdirected.

      If your car gets trashed every time you take it out because of the public’s disdain for its CEO, are you going to buy another?

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        If goebbels had a car company and you bought a car from him, fully knowing he was a Nazi… I would probably say there’s a pretty high chance you are also a Nazi.

        I agree. But many of these CTs were sold well before Musk went all Nazi.

        He’s been a weirdo for years, but that’s somewhat understandable when people get a fuck ton of money. Look at John McAfee.

        Yes, trashing Tesla’s makes people not want to buy them. I just think trashing the Tesla infrastructure is better.

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          I agree. But many of these CTs were sold well before Musk went all Nazi.

          Ehh… Maybe valid with other Teslas, but musk has been letting the mask slip way before late 2023.

          I just think trashing the Tesla infrastructure is better.

          Why not both?

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      Please don’t go after the charge stations. Other car brands use them, and Teslas use non-Tesla charging stations as well. It’s kind of a free for all with chargers.

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      The other Tesla models, I get many people bought it for its EV properties, like people don’t wonder about the views of the CEO of general motors, Toyota etc. in their car purchases. The cybertruck it is very clear that one bought in Musk’s specific visions, so it’s fairer game.

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          I think we might be able to muster up enough nuance to determine the difference between an inanimate object and a person, right?

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            Aren’t you hurting the person by harming their property?

            I’m asking if we can go after every American since America does shit things? So spray paint their doors and houses, throw paint on their clothes, dump garbage in front of their doors.

            Obviously thats silly because we don’t know if that particular American supports the fascist right running the USA. It’s also silly saying wrecking every Tesla is right.

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              Aren’t you hurting the person by harming their property?

              Lol, no. Property does not have feelings, nor is a person driving a near 6 figure vanity truck going to experience undue financial instability by having their property vandalized.

              I’m asking if we can go after every American since America does shit things?

              Another false equivocation… Did every American choose to be American? Or do you think being born is the same as choosing to empower a fascist?

              Obviously thats silly because we don’t know if that particular American supports the fascist right running the USA.

              No, it’s just a stupid comparison to begin with. Again, the important aspect you continue to ignore is that owning a particular piece of property is a choice, and the people who can afford cyber trucks aren’t going to be financially destroyed by buying a different car. Meaning they choose to perpetuate their choice.

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                Lol, no. Property does not have feelings

                So if I burned your house down, you wouldn’t be hurt by this action?

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                  So you’re just ignoring the rest of the argument…?

                  Again, your claim only contains an iota of weight if you grossly over generalize and disregard nuance.

                  A home is not the same as a luxury vehicle. My home wasn’t built by a neo Nazi, nor does it enrich a neo Nazi. My home hasn’t been turned into a dog whistle for fascist who want to enrich their favorite neo Nazi. You do not become homeless when someone vandalizes your 100k vanity truck…

                  If you for some reason vandalized my house with graffiti…I would simply power wash it. I would not claim that I’ve personally been harmed, because I am not my property.

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                  It’s more like if a billionaires 3rd mansion gets burned down, you’re not really that sorry for them are you? It’s a magnitude of difference as to how it effects someone, and I don’t see any lower middle class people driving cyber trucks.

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              Maybe I’ll get flamed for this, but yes, target random Americans for their government’s behavior is normal and effective, depending on where you are.

              The idea that protest can succeed without causing trouble for someone is naive.

              Yeah, if I went to Afghanistan in 2003 i’d expect to be targeted as an American, regardless of my personal opinions.

              And so if I were personally invested in visiting somewhere, but found out it’s dangerous for Americans, that would definitely impact my opinion of the current leadership and what I’m going to do about it.

              People tend not to actually change unless there’s a strong motivation. Not being able to go places you want to go, own things you want to own safely, or simply exist without being hated are some of the oldest reasons why a populace might rise up against their government

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          I dont know how you got that message from what I said. Canadian, american, icelandic tesla’s are all fair game. If you’re asking if hurting americans is free game, then you completely misinterpreted what I was saying

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      The cybertruck is an obscenity just from how dangerous it is for pedestrians and how heavy and inefficient it is.

      Add the nazi psychopath who purports to run the company only makes it worse.

      Vandalizing Cybertrucks is actually quite based and awesome.

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    Musk was randomly accusing people of being a pedo YEARS before the cybertruck was released. No sympathy. User error for agreeing to that contract.

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      Glad I’m the the only one who remembers the pedo accusations. All because he couldn’t use his sub in that cave 🤣 that was my indicator not trust him. Back then I was genuinely hopeful that Musk would do good. But here we are.

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        I remember it as the first time I thought Musk was unhinged rather than just rich.

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    Easy fix, get four signs and hang them in the windows on each side. Have it say "Elon Sux - I hate nazis - ~please don’t vandalize my car~ "

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    I do, if the guy bought his shitup truck before it was widely known that Musk was a nazi ballroot. If they bought it in the last year or two, then I don’t really mind that much. I wouldn’t vandalise someone’s property myself, but I won’t be losing much sleep over it.

    The Cybertruck in particular is very much a Musk Mobile, it’s linked quite closely to his public persona and buying one is you telling the world that you admire and want to emulate Musk in some way, or at least be a part of the Musk Fan Club. It would be like if Hitler signed off on a fancy Führer Ford Focus, then cunts started buying it and showing it off. No shits to give for vandalisation in that case.

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      I could excuse some Tesla owners under this logic, but by the time the Cyber Truck was available, everyone knew who he was.

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        But this is specifically about flaming it as a Nazi vehicle. Cybertrucks were on the street before he started interfering with elections and heil’ing in conferences. Unless I missed the part where the post said they got they Swastikar in the last 3 months, this is attacking someone with too much money who may or may not have spent it on a joke they could drive.

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          We knew he was a nazi when he took over twitter. And that was years before the cybertruck.

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            Maybe there was Musk media I chose not to ingest but, around the Twitter acquistion, we knew he was an alt-right manchild with a paper-thin ego, a backwards conception of “free-speech”, and too much money. Certainly, a piddling, pervert wannabe sniffing around the locker-room of authoritarianism.

            Maybe practicing for major-league fascism, but he wasn’t swinging for the team.

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      I think the moment CT became available it was very clear who Phony Stark is. Maybe he didn’t do the Nazi salute at the time, but everything else was still valid.

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    From a purely legal perspective, I’m curious if the contract would hold up in court, considering there is a concerted campaign of vandalism against the cars.

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    Sounds like their fault for being stupid enough to buy something you aren’t allowed to sell for a year.

    That’s a red flag.

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      Never heard of having to sign a contract like that for a simple vehicle purchase, that is insane. Wonder if they implemented that after the string of “obvious lack of quality assurance testing” type failures popping up on social media

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        It also would not be legally enforcable in most countries, but I guess in the US it’s Yeehaw law, so whatever the big corpo says goes.