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    LOL paid subreddits. ok, yea–let me PAY YOU for the privilege of providing content FOR YOU. LOL

    get fucked. reddit is a toxic rotting husk of what it used to be. good riddance

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      Wasn’t that whole the concept behind that reddit gold exclusive subreddit? I’ve never been on there but I heard it was pretty barren anyway.

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        gold exclusive subreddit

        i’ve been in there, and yea…how many posts about “yay we have gold and we have a subreddit only for us because we’re special” does it take before you start to think “this is about the most pointless thing ever…”

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          It was a wholesome way to fund the site before they sold out. There was nothing wrong with it being mostly pointless. In fact, it’s better that way. Money gated subs outside of that one meme seems pretty terrible.

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          I was in the century club on there, it was actually a pretty nice group of folks. Far less toxic.

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            i was in there for a minute. my one post was “what is this” and then i was replaced a week later. not my thing i guess

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              basically /r/CasualConversation for people with too high post/comment karma for their own good. I’ve made a bunch of good friends over there, but the place has become watered down over time as it became so much easier to get the required amount of points.

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          I bought Gold when that was the only perk to it, back when they were supposedly trying to independently fund the site.

          I deeply regret doing so at this point.

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            You shouldn’t. Reddit was a different place then.

            You supported it when it was good, and abandoned it after it sold out. You can be a little proud of that.

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        The Lounge is where you were given access. That subreddit was ok on its own but really it was a good place to hang out, be friendly and helpful which sometimes resulted in being invited to other private sections of Reddit.

        Some of those private subs have a true sense of community who are truly kind, respect each other and fun to interact with. Before the awards went away there were many games with prizes and multi-day parties with lots of engagement and fun. Not anything like the regular Reddit.

        Those places still exist but activity has declined since most third party apps and the awards/coin system were taken away. That decision not only damaged the public Reddit subs but also the private ones.

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    Oh cool so we’re gonna get another wave of users joining lemmy, it’s nice that they keep fucking up at such a regular cadence

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      I don’t think there’s really going to be some noticeable influx, but I hope so. Even though Lemmy isn’t nearly intuitive as it could be, but it did improve atleast by some degree.

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        Voyager is pretty intuitive and can be used without even joining a instance

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        Reddit isn’t really intuitive either. Most platforms have at least some learning curve. We have a great ecosystem of apps that help. I only wish a YouTuber would make a good explainer.

        Here’s one for the Fediverse that I saw recently: https://youtu.be/QzYozbNneVc

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          Well that’s definitely true in some areas, like the search bar (it’s just awful, not non-intuitive).

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          Well that’s the problem though isn’t it? If to use the website you need a literal tutorial, then something is fucked. I realize the irony of saying this on Lemmy, but the platform just isn’t very user friendly at all. Hell, you could say the same about the whole Fediverse, it’s an interesting idea and technology, but for the average person it’s too much of a hassle compared to normal social media.

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            I can’t think of a single social media platform that hasn’t required me to search how to use it at some point. Twitter was like, “So I can send a text message to a website about what kind of soup I had for lunch? I don’t get it.” Facebook is regularly full of posts by people who don’t understand the platform. The internet itself had celebrity ads, and morning news show explainers.

            The Fediverse in general does require a different way of thinking. More importantly, it requires advertising (or publicity, anyway). That is one big advantage corporate media will always have - ad money. But the Fediverse has us.

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        Using Boost on both it’s like I never left. Biggest differences are a bit less diversity here, duplicate communities from different instances, and the spoiler tags don’t work.

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          It’s funny because the demographics here remind me very much of old 2010-era Reddit—very techy and/or progressive types making up 90% of discussion.

          I think about 2014ish is about the point where Reddit peaked in quality, so we’re at least replaying from a good save state here. I fully anticipate lemmy will hit the same peak in a few years and hopefully continues on to surpass it

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          The duplicate community across instances could really use a solution, maybe like a multimunity?

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        We say registrations go from 1 or 2 a day to 14 (other instances saw similar upswings). Just on this news. If they do implement it we’ll see another Rexxit with similar big numbers.

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    Left Reddit over a year ago, haven’t been back once. It was surprisingly easy, and a year on, it’s getting easier for others too.

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      I miss some of the more casual subreddits, and somehow Lemmy is even more of an echo chamber than Reddit is, but otherwise yeah, Lemmy is fine. Especially with the Photon frontend.

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        It makes sense, those that backed off Reddit were more than likely against Corpo greed while conservatives cheer it on. Lemmy was created by leftists supposedly and more left leaning people joined after leaving reddit so it’s no surprise. Reddit kept the bootlickers and the lazy, Lemmy gained the anti-greed political left so we were sort of destined to be an echo chamber unfortunately.

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          The only problem is the Lemmy creators are also bootlickers, just the boots were made by a different colonial holding. I’m very thankful for instances like lemmy.blahaj.zone, beehaw.org, and slrpnk.net, as well as to a lesser extent lemmy.db0.net, but the fact is there’s a large number of bootlickers here who like a different flavor of boot

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              Almost joined there. Its a really good instance. Its just the core political philosophy is less directly aligned with me than the ones I listed. Again. Its a really good instance and I DO respect the core political philosophy, its just like… A slightly different kind of libertarian than I am to where its like… I’ll coalition with y’all but it would be disingenuous of me to claim to be part of your movement. Me speaking on what I believe while saying I’m aligned with y’all would hurt your messaging and I don’t want to hurt y’all like that

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                Maybe that’s the misunderstanding—we aren’t political, we’re pirates. Our only messaging is arch, btw.

                That’s why I’ve enjoyed it there—we are more active about sharing our hobbies than our social opinions.

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          Reddit kept the bootlickers and the lazy, Lemmy gained the anti-greed political left

          sigh…

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        Lemmy is even more of an echo chamber than Reddit is,

        Yeah I really miss the trumpers responding constantly to anything about him with absolute bullshit lies. That really added perspective to my worldview. Now, if we could only get some more people to join Lemmy who despise Linux /s

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          There are centrists and even conservatives out there in the world who have valid perspectives and values but who are not Trumpers.

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            Yes, valuable perspectives like UnIpArTy!!!1 and bOtH sIdEs!!!1

            Edit: I want to agree with your sentiment though, really. I’m just jaded after several years of seeing disingenuous views expressed. Trump isn’t really one I can abide by letting off the hook but I’ve seen that attempted by MANY centrists to the point that I no longer can believe there exists a such thing as a “centrist”.

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        I mean, it’s our fault as leftists that it is an echo chamber. We have forgotten how to talk about polemic issues among ourselves. I bet we lemmings have big differences (in the details) but we are afraid of bans or talking to walls, so…

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      I left also, the API thing was the nudge I needed; I admit I’ve gone back for niche things: the fan groups of 2-3 bands and two TV shows. Reddit is their defacto fan forum for lots of things

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        I was desperately waiting for an alternative to show up years before even the API changes. Anything that came up got taken over by Nazis and died shortly after. Lemmy is the only one that managed to actually take off.

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      The worst part to me is the shadowbanning. It’s easy enough to tell if you’re shadowbanned (check subs or comment threads when signed out and in private mode to see if your stuff shows up), but you can’t see comments from other people who are shadowbanned. I want to see all points of view. And after the API changes, the sites for viewing removed or hidden comments stopped working :|

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      I tried checking it out recently just for the amount of content. The site is unusable now. Don’t bother to comment anything beyond a useless lol comment or you’ll get banned for every little thing. The mods really went power mad over there

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    AI to summarize and recommend content, helping users dive deeper into products, shows, games

    Notice they don’t talk about hobbies or common interests, just “shit we can sell them”

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      I’m sure in his wet dreams Reddit is no longer a community site but a thinly veiled astroturfing platform that’s paid billions by large corporations to get their adsposts in front of users.

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        Yeah, that’s the definition of enshittification.

        • Make a platform that becomes popular
        • Lock in users and start to milk them
        • Use large user base to draw in companies with ads and influence
        • Lock in companies and squeeze them for all their worth
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        I mean there had been complaining for years that it was becoming just that; it’s just that they were trying to do it without anyone noticing and then all the tech bros got into a hold-my-beer contest

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    what a goddamn shithole. the dark thing about this is that they will continue to retain the critical mass of users and they know it. it’s where the most users and content are. so many communities were completely erased during the mod strike and it didn’t matter. they knew they would be completely fine. the future is an authoritarian world effectively governed by companies like this.

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      the dark thing about this is that they will continue to retain the critical mass of users and they know it

      That’s what many social media companies have said, lol.

      But the sad thing is many communities will (and already have) move to Discord. Which is even worse, as Discord is a siloed information black hole.

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        I still don’t know how that works. Discord seems like the worst possible substitute for reddit. It doesn’t work at all the same way and search sucks.

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          Yah, I don’t get this. So I log into Discord to ask a question, and the only people that will see it are the ones that are currently on at the time. The likelihood of it being seen by the person that can answer it are low, and it’s not like it’s going to be visible for when that person logs back in. This is all besides the fact that I could probably have answered it myself with a search of old questions on some platform that can be indexed. It’s utterly bizarre.

          If you’re running a FOSS project or a community that needs support, you have rocks in your goddamn head if you think Discord is how to do it.

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            The one thing Discord is good at is engagement, aka pinging people on their phones, repeating conversations that have been answered a million times, getting people drawn into rambling discussions…

            Yeah it’s kind of a nightmare lol.

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          Exactly instead of a bunch of publicly searchable information silos we have a whole bunch of fragmented private ones with absolutely no overlap and far less useful. We need a publicly funded site of some kind.

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              I meant from people like you and me that are Googling an obscure topic or researching something or troubleshooting information, those things are disappearing behind the walls of Discord

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          It’s the most popular alternative, simple as that. There’s (sadly) no where else obvious the average community knows to go.

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        Yeah as soon as I am directed to discord for anything , I move on with something else in life instead.

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        I’m getting closed to hosting an XMPP server and getting the fuck off discord. They can rot in hell

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    Cool, I’ve heard that people love paying for access to their own content that used to be free.

    This is a good time for anyone still on the site to share some Lemmy links.

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        Reddit has that effect. I admit I was a little unhinged when I came here, but either people calm down and start acting like real human beings, or else they realize they can’t have their fun being trolls and they leave. It’s a funny thing that happens when an entire platform is centered around people, not profit. Bots and ragebait are great for stonks - they drive “engagement” and inflate MAU - so they are pervasive on every platform with shareholders.

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        Right, the few good posters left aren’t worth the flood of the others. Remember the first bit of Facebook, when you had to have an invite or a college email? Wasn’t so bad, then they opened the flood gate and continued making poor decisions and today it’s a wonder that anyone uses it, but if you sign on you’ll see not much but political memes being shared making laughably false claims.

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    While I do miss the subs with thousands, and the very obscure subs for my specific interest, this shit makes me glad I got out

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      What makes me sad is how a lot of niche communities moved from websites to Reddit, and now they are going to die.

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          No. Most of those communities are dwindling away. The guitar forums on Reddit are all AI shit repost bots. Luckily there are a few good YouTube channels to still get information, but there is no discussion.

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      Don’t worry, won’t be long for thousands join Lemmy when Reddit tries the Musk way of running a company into the ground :)

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    Fixing reddit search? Just insert a 2021 google search bar on old.reddit. I just saved you millions you dingus. Thank goodness Aaron Swartz doesn’t have to see what happened to his joint venture.

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      Remember when they tried to pretend he was not really involved? And then the time the removed his name? Insert pepperage farm meme graphic.

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        “Lemmy CEO teases users with cookies and free subs” would be removed from reddit in 1 second

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          Yes, because one is saying positives and the other is saying negatives. “Trump promises project 2025” isn’t a trump ad even if “Harris promises a fucking break from whatever weird bullshit trump said today” wouldn’t be allowed on truth social

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            Ads are about exposure too. The word “lemmy” is probably banned on reddit because they don’t want you to even mention a competitor or people would know.

            When the frontpage is all about trump/harris any party that isn’t them lose because they get 0 coverage.

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                Problem is the ones people currently trust to organise, run, certify, and implement the elections do not want third parties to be relevant. Existing powers entrench against any changes that might result in a more fair system because the unfairness is the reason why they are on top.