Quokk.auWhere are the # FreeTheHostages people now?
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Farhad
Where are the #FreeTheHostages people now?
Don't they have empathy for the kidnapped volunteers of #FreedomFlotilla?
Does anyone care about their safety and well being?
#Israel #Gaza #Activism #hostages #Piracy #SanctionIsrael #BDS @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe @israel
Honestly a pretty good outcome so far from their nonviolent action.
Well done.
@frightful_hobgoblin exactly.
Israel demanding that they sign an illegal deportation order,
Even though they were kidnapped on international waters and being held hostage inside Israel.
This is outrageous and sadly not many politicians seem to care protesting it and calling for Israel to be held accountable
To be honest i'm also a bit relieved by their reply, imagine they made a big deal out of kidnapping 15 protesters after being silent about a genocide all this time.
Greta was deported to France. https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250610-greta-thunberg-tells-france-24-she-was-kidnapped-by-israel
Funny thing, no one in Turkey is covering how they raided freedom flotilla in international waters. Turkey is as pro Israel as UK, France and America
The "free the hostages folks" are usually anti-zionist. And, yeah, they want these hostages free, and the majority of the hostages are Palestinians
Sorry, seems like you have 0 clue what you're talking about, so I'll fill you in.
"Free the hostages" was the tagline used by Zionists and Zionist sympathizers following October 7th, because HAMAS took multiple Israeli citizens hostage.
It has nothing to do with freeing the Palestinians.
Everyone who wanted to leave got the chance to leave by signing deportation papers. Those who didn't will face legal procedures in Israel.
Thats definitely the same as the hostages from 7th October...
The Israelis haven't shot them while they were waving white flags, so in that sense it is very different.
The fact that that story even exists and wasn't buried says more about Israels transparency and Hamas tactics in combat, more than relate to this new incident.
Or do you really compare Greta Thunberg with Hamas?
It occurred during a live filming and leaked before the Israelis could squelch it.
This wasn't transparency, it was a PR fuck up by the IDF.
Greta is doing her best. I'm not going to rag on her.
As if that has stopped authorities before.
They could just as well have doubled down.
Live leaked video isn't something you can just magic away
Oh, I see you haven't met Donald Trump or Vladimir Putin. Or Xi Jinping.
I hope they are all safe. But I need someone to really lay it out…how much aid was actually on that boat?
One boat. 2 million starving people.
If you think this was about the aid on that boat, you may want to go back to step one.
It was to force the hands of the governments of the people who were detained. Which would hopefully lead to more aid getting through.
It was reported as a symbolic amount of aid including baby food.
Basically nothing on purpose because a useful amount could be perceived as supporting hamas.
The plan was a succes they knew they would never make it but they demonstrated that Israel will spend resources to bar even the most minimal of aid.
one (1) boatload
Why is that of any consequence?
The only people who truly care about Gaza are the ones who have endlessly deep pockets to fund a relief effort that would also get turned away.
No word on what this says about the IDF, of course.
It's the first boat. There will be others. And if they can break the siege, lots and lots more
I'm all for Greta's actions in nearly every aspect. But what was the freedom flotilla expecting what would happen? That they would peacefully land on the beach, help and go home and not be intercepted?
Actually it was an act of war since it was done using the country's military.
Piracy is reserved for unaffiliated parties.
So essentially Israel has committed an act of war against whatever country the boats' are registered under
Not Italy. But Swedish, Brazilian, German, Turkish, French, etc.
Those countries won't be too happy if Israel is kidnappings their citizens. And those countries may change their financial and diplomatic relationships with Israel as a result.
Israel cannot continue the genocide without foreign support. Quite literally they need weapons from those countries
One might expect them to care, but the Foreign Minister of Sweden was pretty unconcerned
They have killed many European citizens, from journalists to aid workers, and none of the EU countries have even reduced their amount of support for Israel let alone condemned them on it. Why would they care now?
States doing piracy to each other without war was a staple of the golden age of piracy. It was called privateering.
Right, modern day international law would define that as an act of war.
Clearly not
It clearly is.
Just because a nation commits an act of war against you doesn't mean that you have to declare war and attack. All it means is you have a justifiable cause to retaliate under international law
“Act of war” is not the same as “declaration of war”, in case you were under that impression.
They knew with almost 100% certainty that they would be captured. The aid supplies were just enough to justify going to Gaza. If by chance they got through, so be it, some people got help. This is getting international attention and will hopefully ramp up the pressure for the home countries of these people to actually do something.
approximately this
This is how satyagraha activism is supposed to go: they've made the bad guys incriminate themselves and put themselves in a bad position legally and in public perception.
Do you think they should have chickened out because of the possibility of arrest?
Braindead comment. Literally this is what they expected. Either they get media publicity showing how Israel is transgressing and commiting crimes on international water or they get to Gaza and can help people there. Even if they didnt bring a cruiser cargo of supplies they can still actively help the situation there.
They risk their lives fully aware of what the outcomes are and you are incapable of even thinking a singular action ahead - baffling.
Great explaination. I don't see why you had to start it off with a rude comment though. Leave that shit on reddit.
Honestly that would probably have been the smartest move for Israel. Let a token / useless amount of aid get through so they can say “see we’re allowing aid!”, but not enough to matter.
They couldn't tolerate the appearance of weakness or charity, because the Israeli settlers would be engaged as a result.
If anything, not simply killing the crew will likely be reported on as Woke and Soy.
Pretty sure they expected this to happen and that was the point. It's about raising awareness of Israel's depravity.
Showing how israel refuse to enter basic aid to gaza , the governments sucking israel D. Also the interception cost money israel more than thr cost of oeganizing the flotilla
some aid ships managed to get through.
there are people starving. won't fault anyone for trying to bring in food.