• qyron@sopuli.xyz
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    With a fully functional, affordable, universal public transport system, owning a car is a luxury, not a need.

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      It never was a need. This is a myth build by the car manufacturers. They lobbied for the car centered model with oil companies. This never was the model.

      The same applies for suburbs full of houses.

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        I’m not going down that slope.

        As someone who has lived in a large city, with a fully functional public transportation system, I was thankful for it, although it took me 2 extra hours of my life every day.

        But living in a city, packed and stacked like merchandise in shelves is not a good way to live.

        I got out the first opportunity I could take. Cost me family, friends and lower income but I don’t regret it.

        Metropolises are not the way for civilization and CoViD was a cruel demononstration of how flawed the concept is.

        That is all I have to say.

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      With a fully functional, affordable, universal public transport system

      Y’all got any of them magic carpets? They’re just as real as this mythical perfect public transport system. And cars will always be more convenient. Convenience wins every time.

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        Eat it.

        I lived in a city, with a public transport system, and it worked. Nobody is speaking of perfection here.

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          I live in a city, with a public transport system, and it’s terrible. Nobody but the poors bother with it as it takes HOURS longer than simply driving. This isn’t hyperbole, it’s actual trip times from actual trips taken.

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            Your public transit system and town planning suck. An easy litmus test: do your buses and trans have dedicated lanes and priority at intersections? If the answer is no, your public transit system isn’t good enough and im something else is being given priority.

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            It doesn’t have to work everywhere to be implemented in some places. Bikes and e bikes in particular benefits everyone. Those that ride them in the inner ring and those that have to drive who encounter less congestion because the people who now ride bikes are not in cars or taking up a bus seat.

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            9 months ago

            If you look at city density the twin cities in Minnesota actually could have and utilize infrastructure like the Netherlands but policy stops us

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      Well SK is also a pretty centralized country. Most people live in or right around Seoul.

      Not much point in owning a car in such a case.