I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync’s developer, Lemmy’s developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home instance up will accelerate the incredible growth of lemmy!

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    Here’s what OP said:

    “With all this talk about Sync pricing…I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync’s developer, Lemmy’s developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home instance up will accelerate the incredible growth of lemmy!”

    How on Earth do you come to the conclusion that that is in any way calling Sync users out?

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      Fair point. You know as you read through comments of a thread, you sometimes allow the original message to meld with the messages of most comments? I just did that, and should not have.

      Let me rephrase to “because of the sync mention by the OP, there is a preponderance of lecturing coming from the FOSS purist community. It is infantile to expect no response to that”.

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        I have to assume you’re referring to things I’ve said as it would be pretty stupid to expect me to be answerable for things other people have said.

        So, you let me know where I’ve made any comments in the entire thread that are based on Sync being a for-profit app and my lectures about the desirability of FOSS purism and I’ll be happy to talk about them.

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          But coming into a thread about ways to ensure Lemmy gets the support it needs to develop and instances get the support they need to keep going to tell everyone how much you love your app is infantile.

          This is what I was responding to.

          Let me make a list of things that would be “stupid” to take from this.

          • That you are answerable for what others have said.
          • That you are among those that were prodding Sync users.

          Here’s the message that I got from what you said

          • Standing up for yourself is infantile

          Feel free to tell me why my paraphrasing was inaccurate. That’s the only useful direction this conversation can go from here. Not whatever the fuck direction that was that you just tried to take it in.

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            Let me make a list of things that would be “stupid” to take from this.

            That you are answerable for what others have said.

            Then why did you ask me to justify OP’s post?

            That you are among those that were prodding Sync users.

            Then why did you try and make me answerable for what other people were saying?

            Not whatever the fuck direction that was that you just tried to take it in.

            It’s pretty simple. You said:

            “because of the sync mention by the OP, there is a preponderance of lecturing coming from the FOSS purist community. It is infantile to expect no response to that”

            And clearly expected me to have some sort of ownership of, or participation in, that lecturing. I then pointed out to you that I didn’t believe I had either but if you could find an example of me doing so I’d be happy to talk about it.

            Feel free to tell me why my paraphrasing was inaccurate

            Because it’s not what I said. I said:

            “You’re absolutely correct. Anyone can enjoy any app they like and either pay for it or not…But coming into a thread about ways to ensure Lemmy gets the support it needs to develop and instances get the support they need to keep going to tell everyone how much you love your app is infantile.”

            I’m not sure saying someone(s) coming into a thread which is nothing to do with Sync as a piece of software and proceeding to hijack it to be about Sync is infantile behaviour is directly equivalent to ‘standing up for yourself is infantile’. They weren’t standing up for themselves, they’d made an error in understanding what the thread was about and when informed what it was about got annoyed and asked why they ‘couldn’t just use what we want’ or ‘why do you care?’ when as far as I can tell nobody (certainly not me) told them they couldn’t use whatever app they wanted to, its simply not what this thread was about.

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              You really just aren’t interested in boxing with anything but your own shadow, huh?

              You’ve got all these assertions and things I’ve tasked you with doing, yet I never did and clearly indicated so in my previous post.

              But goddamn, that’s the only way you’ll keep the egg off your face. If you can just make it look like I said that stuff. Right?

              Pound sand. You’ve pissed me off with that disingenuous fuckin bullshit. You know exactly what you’re doing and I loathe it.

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                You really just aren’t interested in boxing with anything but your own shadow, huh?

                By quoting exactly what you said and exactly what I said I’m shadow boxing? OK.

                You’ve got all these assertions and things I’ve tasked you with doing, yet I never did and clearly indicated so in my previous post.

                So you didn’t ask me to justify OP’s post? And you didn’t expect a response from me when you talked about FOSS purists lecturing Sync users? If not, why on Earth did you even mention it?

                If you can just make it look like I said that stuff. Right?

                The trouble is, you did say that stuff. I’ve quoted you (and myself) directly. Now, if I’ve misunderstood either your words or the intent of your words, feel free to explain to me exactly where I’ve gone wrong and if I am wrong, I’ll gladly and happily apologise.

                I’ve also directly answered your request about the usage of the word ‘infantile’ but I see you’ve chosen to not see that. I can understand that.