• Franklin@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I think the biggest red flag for me lately has been libertarian because what I’ve learned that actually means is you’re the insane flavor Republican but don’t want the bad PR

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      4 months ago

      It depends. I’ve known some people who use it to say they’re the crazy type or Republican too, but I’ve also heard it used by more moderate Republicans and conservatives, who don’t want to associate with Trump and the other authoritarians in the right-wing of the party. I’ve also seen it used by non-aligned voters, who don’t have another label for themselve, so just default to “libertarian”, because they’ve heard it before.

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      4 months ago

      Modern right-libertarians are just the right-wing of liberalism taken to their most extreme, specifically in their propertarianism, especially in a settler colonial society like U.S, Australia, Northern Ireland, and Israel…

      I call them right libertarians because the term “libertarian” has been co-opted to hell by them

      “One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, ‘our side,’ had captured a crucial word from the enemy . . . ‘Libertarians’ . . . had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over…”

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        4 months ago

        Absolutely I understand that the broader political definition of libertarian is not what it’s been co-opted to be in North America.

        Here it is inextricably linked to the most insane rhetoric, used only the brainwash people into voting against their interest.

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        4 months ago

        I sometimes like to read Rothbard’s The Betrayal of the American Right just to laugh at him.

        What did you think would happen, you slavery-defending doofus? All the real libertarians warned you.

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      4 months ago

      glad you finally caught up. it’s depressing to see how many good people are just catching up. it makes sensible solutions seem impossible.