The Canadian government has insisted that information on domestic goods is readily available to all trading partners, even including nations that recently elected a felony-convicted game show host to be their head of state. Instead, the United States has decided to employ a rarely-chosen trade tactic that international economists refer to as the “fuck around and find out” model.

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    No, if the election was fair, he would have lost. In fact, he would probably be in jail by now. The Republicans have been disenfranchising people for decades including by passing laws and limiting access to voting, there’s heavy gerrymandering, disinformation campaigns, etc., etc.

    The results of the election are not based on a fair election. Some people actively voted for this, either because they’re bad people or willfully ignorant, but many people couldn’t vote. For many people who did vote, their vote didn’t count the way it should (gerrymandering). Education funds and topics have been cut for decades. People aren’t taught how to think critically, and check to see if news they read is factual. Some of this has been going on for decades and we’re seeing the compounded results of those tactics.

    So, no, America did not vote for this. We were shoehorned into it and now blamed for it. Fuck that noise. We’re all at the mercy of these assholes and need to fight back.

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        Does that make it all of America’s fault? If they make the rules and then win ONLY because of the rules, that doesn’t make it everyone’s fault. It makes it the fault of the people who made the rules. Don’t be obtuse. They want everyone to blame everyone else instead of blaming them. We have to come together or this shit will destroy civilization.

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            very naive perspective. bigger forces than “the people” are throwing everything they can at your democracy and this “oh well” attitude is handing your ass to them on a silver platter.

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                Fair I could be jumping to conclusions. I’m just saying that even if it were true that the majority of Americans chose Trump in a fair election where everyone had equal opportunity to vote, then even that wouldn’t mean the people are getting what they wanted. Aggressive misinformation, decades of propaganda, capture of the media, these are all things that we can’t blame individuals for that would cause this.

                If the United States makes its way out of this, systemic change will be necessary. Capitalism is at the root of this all.

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      As if Americans didn’t hand the White House to Republicans every few years knowing full well they are the party of gerrymandering, vote suppression and racism

      You cannot now pretend they are victims of happenstance

      Through ignorance, bigotry and mostly apathy, Americans as a whole, chose this

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        No. That is a minority of people. Don’t forget that cuts to education (connected learning critical thinking and being able to find reputable information sources), gerrymandering, and changes to laws have been happening for decades. There is some apathy, sure, but most isn’t apathy–it’s learned helplessness. No matter what they do, nothing changes.

        You want to be mad at America? Good! I’m American and I’m mad at America. Let’s not pretend that this all happened in a vacuum and there weren’t any influences on why this happened. I don’t blame everyone for all of this. I blame the oligarchs, mostly, but there have been specific people in key positions making this happen. Many people were just manipulated. If your education is poor, your opportunities are few, and nothing you do makes anything better, you might change your vote once in a while. Sad, but true.

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          There is some apathy, sure, but most isn’t apathy–it’s learned helplessness. No matter what they do, nothing changes.

          show me what they did and we can start discussing liability here