Your thinly veiled bigotry is still just bigotry, despite hiding it behind a strawman
I’m not into any sports at all, of any kind. I dont think I could even name 10 athletes in total - either male or female.
I’m also pretty sure that wouldn’t be a blocker on me having a meaningful discussion about trans inclusivity in sports
Well yeah, you don’t care about either side of the issue, you just care about inclusivity. The meme is making a point that most people that make these comments aren’t caring because they actually care about both sports (which would be the opposite of your situation), but because they are just bigots.
Solid point, applies to abortion too. I don’t know anything about the process and I’ll frequently see a reason for abortion and think “that’s another good reason”, and that’s why I believe in pro choice, things aren’t simple and banning abortion doesn’t help anyone.
If we count retired athletes and Olympic sports then I can just barely get there:
- Venus Williams
- Serena Williams
- Anna Kournikova
- Kerri Strug
- Nancy Kerrigan
- Tonya Harding
- Michele Kwan
- Simone Biles
- Katie Ledecky
- Caitlin Clark
So now I get to talk about trans women in sports!
Um… yeah. I don’t know. Whatever the solution is, I think it should be handled with empathy and respect for trans rights.
I honestly just know 4 of those. Hmmm
I don’t follow sports at all and am not from the USA but I only know Serena Williams.
You don’t know Kerrigan, the Queen of the Blades?
No, I have never heard of her.
Queen of the blades? That sounds like some B list super hero or villain, lol.
P.S. after reading the list again, I also recognized Anna. I believe that she is/was a chess player.
That sounds like some B list super hero or villain, lol.
Close. She’s a villanous character from the video game Starcraft. Her title “Queen of the Blades” never made sense to me, until I learnt she was named after the figure skater.
Venus is her sister
Which four?
The Williams sisters are obvious.
Kournikova, Strug, Kerrigan, and Harding I know just from having grown up in America in the 90s. They were all very famous for very, very different reasons.
Clark is super famous right now, as is Biles. Biles is more famous by me because she’s from my home city. Ledecky I know because my family follows Olympic swimming. Kwan’s name just stuck in my brain for some reason.
If I had to think of an eleventh athlete, it’d take me a while. There’s another gymnast I could come up with, I’m sure. That really old one.
For me it was Williams, kurnikova and biles.
yep, people should stop making bullshit arguments about things they don’t give shits about, there’s no need to discuss sports if you don’t care about sports (like me) just like there’s no need to discuss computers if you don’t care about computers
While we’re at it, the abortion debate should be settled by people who can actually get abortions.
We’ll soon know if trans people in sport are a real problem or a made up problem - if there’s anything to it, the next Chinese Olympics team will be 90% trans people.
Oh shit, that’s much better at getting to the point than asking “So if Lia Thomas had an unfair advantage, you’ll be all on board for confiscating the medals of the people who beat her until we can get an investigation going?”
Heck the only female athletes I can name are the transwomen who keep getting involved in these debacles, The Venus Sisters, and the female fake jock to Elon’s male fake nerd herself, Rhonda Rousey, aka the second worst voice actor that Mortal Kombat has ever had.
Seriously Megan Fox, I know you’re better than this, how the fuck did you manage to sound like someone reading off a card when you’re voicing a blood-addicted killer vampire with big beautiful wings? For the love of fuck, why can’t you have fun with this like John Cena did? I mean even Not-Anthony voicing Homelander seems to be enjoying himself even though he keeps turning his Homelander impression into a Jack Nicholson on certain lines for some fucking reason.
10 athletes? Shit, I bet they wouldn’t even be able to name ten teams.
The only athletes I can name are professional athletes in the major leagues of football, basketball, and soccer. Some are retired by now, I’m sure. Olympic athletes and athletes in any other sport or league are unknown to me unless they make the news for some non-athletic reason.
i can name 3 atheles, and i’m not even sure of the 3rd one
10? That’s an overkill. I bet they can’t even name 2.
No good. They might think of Venus and Serena Williams.
10 is safer to make the point.
Yes, sadly these are the sort of people that would name 2, because you said 2,and claim victory, missing the whole point
Name 10 women? USA soccer team! There, I just named at least 11, I don’t know their names one by one, but that doesn’t mean I don’t admire them and like how they play. So, can I now give my opinion on the matter? I would like to see sport categories based on testosterone levels instead of gender.
Ten female athletes is easy. 10 currently active professional athletes would be much harder
10 currently active trans women athletes that have gold medals. Make it impossible for them.
I can obly think of one transwoman with gold medals and that’s Caitlyn Jenner
That was won when Caitlyn was Bruce so did they really win it?
Yes they did win it but not in competition as a woman.
I never understood this whole thing anyway. The whole reason womens sports exist separately from mens sports in the first place is because women can’t (usually) compete with the men. If there was a female athlete playing basketball for example that was way better than any other female player in the sport and that woman was able to be successfully competitive in the mens league in my eyes she should just compete with the men. If she cant really compete in the mens league she should play with the women. To my understanding there’s nothing stopping a female athlete from being in the ‘mens’ league if she were good enough. This doesn’t even have to be about gender. It just feels like you could look at every situation on a case by case basis and make a common sense determination based upon what works best for that particular athlete. I hate that this has become a stupid argument.
Why do I have to care about sports in order to care about trans folks who care about sports?
Do I have to care about every last hobby or fandom before I can weigh in on the justice of whether black people or gay people or poor people should be allowed to participate?
If it includes retired/dead sports people, then I could do 10 males and females. But currently active…no on both.
