Doing that would by definition make us independent. We would be seizing the Federal governments legally implemented Tax dollars.
But in all seriousness I am a leftist and I support CA independence because it is time. We are just too different then the East and the Mid-West, we have a different climate and a different relationship with our water and our land. That causes us to have a different body politic then them. I mean the only reason CA is part of the US is because the US invaded a sovereign country and took it, then to hold it engaged in a genocide of the native population. We never asked to join, we were forced. But that was the 19’th century and today is the 21’st century. We shouldn’t rejoin Mexico and become Mexican again, but we are definitely not “Americans”. What are we IDK, but I think we deserve an opportunity to ask that question.
I don’t think you understand the complexity of secession and statehood. It doesnt just mean “we dont pay federal taxes.” It means a lot more than just that.
I know it does. But the act of stopping the flow of federal dollars to the federal coffers would in itself be seen as an act of rebellion. So if CA decides that it wants to do that, it better be ready to have the ability to back it up.
I view a peacful secession movement beginning with changes in our election system and legislative system to allow for a proportional representative state government, maybe eliminate the idea of a separate executive and place that within the legislature like in a parliamentary system. Then once we have organized ourselves politically we can work towards a separation from the Union. Or we can tell the Federal Gov to get fucked, take their money and shoot our way out. But I think we can agree that might be a bad idea.
Doing that would by definition make us independent. We would be seizing the Federal governments legally implemented Tax dollars.
But in all seriousness I am a leftist and I support CA independence because it is time. We are just too different then the East and the Mid-West, we have a different climate and a different relationship with our water and our land. That causes us to have a different body politic then them. I mean the only reason CA is part of the US is because the US invaded a sovereign country and took it, then to hold it engaged in a genocide of the native population. We never asked to join, we were forced. But that was the 19’th century and today is the 21’st century. We shouldn’t rejoin Mexico and become Mexican again, but we are definitely not “Americans”. What are we IDK, but I think we deserve an opportunity to ask that question.
I don’t think you understand the complexity of secession and statehood. It doesnt just mean “we dont pay federal taxes.” It means a lot more than just that.
I know it does. But the act of stopping the flow of federal dollars to the federal coffers would in itself be seen as an act of rebellion. So if CA decides that it wants to do that, it better be ready to have the ability to back it up.
I view a peacful secession movement beginning with changes in our election system and legislative system to allow for a proportional representative state government, maybe eliminate the idea of a separate executive and place that within the legislature like in a parliamentary system. Then once we have organized ourselves politically we can work towards a separation from the Union. Or we can tell the Federal Gov to get fucked, take their money and shoot our way out. But I think we can agree that might be a bad idea.