WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump “is fine”
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

  • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
    1·
    4 months ago

    I don’t personally think it was staged, but be honest … it’s not like you delete every single comment that doesn’t have sources …

    • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      3·
      4 months ago

      We remove comments that make objectively false claims, especially when they involve life or death situations. Covid misinformation is a good example.

      • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 months ago

        Speculating on an event that has already occured is not a “life or death situation” in the way spreading information that discourages the use of life-saving vaccines is.

        • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          3·
          4 months ago

          Given the state of American discourse right now, I’m going to hard disagree with you there.

          • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
            1·
            4 months ago

            So you’re making moderation policy based on an assumption that people who have been exposed to the idea that the shooting may have been staged are more likely to incite violence than people who haven’t been? You don’t have source for that stance do you? One could argue that believing it is a failed assassination attempt would also incite people to violence. If a comment in particular calls for violence, thats one thing, but what you’re saying is not logical.

            • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldMEnglish
              2·
              4 months ago

              No, we are not. Our sidebar rules are posted and have not changed, nor have the rules of Lemmy.

              • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
                1·
                4 months ago

                You said you are restricting discussion on whether the assassination was staged because it is a life or death situation. You have not provided compelling evidence that one form of speculation is more or less “life or death” than another.

                • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldMEnglish
                  2·
                  4 months ago

                  No, we did not. We are not restricting discussion (those are your words) because this is a life and death situation. We are requiring sources for life or death claims, and we are removing purely speculative and baseless assertions of fact, because this is a life and death situation.

                  • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
                    1·
                    4 months ago

                    We are not restricting discussion (those are your words) because this is a life and death situation.

                    we are removing purely speculative and baseless assertions of fact, because this is a life and death situation.

                    So one, like I said, it’s not really a life and death situation. And secondly, in the immediate aftermath of an event, practically everything is speculation.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 months ago

        The virus was studied by multiple different healthcare agencies across multiple different continents.

        This is not comparable to the performance yesterday.

          • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
            1·
            4 months ago

            Yes you personally did not compare the vaccine to the performance yesterday, that doesn’t mean other members of the mod team in this thread did not.

            Edit: oh my bad you did, sorry about that.

            “Covid misinformation is a good example.”

      • p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 months ago

        Here’s your source.

        https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-2025-suggests-there-will-be-a-new-american-revolution-00166583

        NEW YORK — The leader of a conservative think tank orchestrating plans for a massive overhaul of the federal government in the event of a Republican presidential win said that the country is in the midst of a “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”

        It’s INSANE to me that you’d suggest we do nothing or even promote political violence over this.

        • girlfreddy@lemmy.ca
          2·
          4 months ago

          Yet you seem to think acting like a petulant child is appropriate. Some of us have had our hands slapped because we crossed a line. But you can still act like an adult when it happens.

          If you don’t like the rules, fine. Then go elsewhere.

          • p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world
            1·
            4 months ago

            …its nice to see how complacent and naive we have all become. Pathetic. This country deserves what’s coming if that’s the mind-set.

        • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          2·
          4 months ago

          The Lemmy.World content policy prohibits advocacy of violence. We are enforcing the rules of Lemmy, not our own personal preferences. If you prefer an instance without such limitations, you are free to engage with another instance.