This will be their narrative now.

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    There is no ‘make up your mind’. There is only a building of evidence. Unless you’re willing to declare some objective standard for what everyone considers an ‘official Democrat’…

    In the meantime, many people register into a party falsely to do things like manipulate primary votes and such. A common attack vector for the first would-be assassin as I recall. To say “he is or isn’t” is pretty much in the eye of the beholder and we’re discussing points undecideds will consider relevant.

    My mind is currently leaning to ‘way too many people will think he is a Democrat for this to be good for Democrats’.

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      This you?

      So, can you answer your question? Your question was not about what people will think. Your question was whether or not he was a Democrat.

      Is he a Democrat?

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          Yes, one of those registered independent Democrats you hear oh so much about.

          You going to bat for Hannity’s conspiracy bullshit is very telling.

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            You going to bat for Hannity’s conspiracy bullshit is very telling.

            As is your seeming inability to understand basic reasoning.

            I’m curious why you think he isn’t being labelled as Independent right off the bat by news agencies if registering Independent solidifies you as such? What do you say about people that wear MAGA hats but registered Democratic to F with DNC nominations?

            I’m not going to bat for Hannity. I’m saying we shouldn’t be so smug as to assume he’s wrong about this guy. More importantly, that undecideds will agree and not be turned off by an obvious bias towards a belief of Democratic purity. That is how you lose votes.

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              “Why aren’t the media being fair?” Really?

              I’m not going to bat for Hannity. I’m saying we shouldn’t be so smug as to assume he’s wrong about this guy.

              i.e. going to bat for him. The assassin was not a registered Democrat. That is what makes you a Democrat. He is not one. You are wrong and Hannity is wrong.

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                What do you say about people that wear MAGA hats but registered Democratic to F with DNC nominations?

                You forgot to answer this one.

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                  Also, I “forgot” to answer that one, because you asked someone else.

                  What a bizarre thing to be dishonest about.

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                    I asked you first or do you not understand how math works? Calling me a liar when the numbers are right there. Talk about blatant dishonesty.

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                  If you’re registered as a Democrat, you’re a Democrat. That’s literally what makes you a member of the Democratic Party. So they’re Democrats that vote for Trump. They may not care for that and you may not care for that, but that’s literally how it works.

                  Just like Dick Cheney is a Republican that is voting for Harris. Dick Cheney is not a Democrat even if you really, really want him to be… or is this just your failure of understanding basic U.S. civics?

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                    You understand that by registering Independent he is eligible to vote in both party primaries in NC right? Talk about not understanding basic US civics. The dude that disavowed Trump and wanted Haley to beat him, and supported Sanders, Gabbard, Biden, and now Harris, is clearly voting 3rd party.

                    If you’re registered as a Democrat, you’re a Democrat.

                    BEHOLD! What Squid thinks is a Democrat!

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      Unless you’re willing to declare some objective standard for what everyone considers an ‘official Democrat’…

      Registering as a Democrat makes someone an “official Democrat” since registering makes it official.

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          That they are a traitor to the nation and should be ashamed, but they are officially a Democrat because of their registration. That is why they get to vote in the primary, because registering makes it official no matter what the reason is.

          I am not registered for any party, and the fact that I end up always voting for candidates of one party does NOT make me an official member of that party.

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            God damn, three hours later and they’re still insisting you’re a Democrat if you aren’t a registered Democrat and you aren’t if you are one.

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            Nobody cares about whether the assassin was ‘officially a democrat’. They want to know who he supports: the democrats, or the republicans. In NC independents can participate in primaries btw and he likely did so intending to f with them.

            If someone accused you of being pro-Trump and you said “I’m registered independent” do you think they’d be like ‘oh, nm carry on then’?

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              If someone accused you of being pro-Trump and you said “I’m registered independent” do you think they’d be like ‘oh, nm carry on then’?

              If they asked I would say ‘no’ instead of trying to dodge the question.

              You asked about something specific, whether someone was ‘officially’ something and I answered the question. You asked a question that is apparently different than the thing you want to argue about, which is who they (currently?) support.