Well, this just got darker.

  • Johanno@feddit.org
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    Ain’t that what are the tools there for. I mean I don’t like cp and I don’t want to engage in way with people who like it. But I use those llms to describe fantasies that I wouldn’t even talk about with other humans.

    As long as they don’t do it on real humans nobody is hurt.

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      As long as they don’t do it on real humans nobody is hurt.

      Living out the fantasy of having sex with children (or other harmful sexual practices and fantasies) wit AI or alike can strengthen the wish to actual do it in RL. It can weaken the strength to abstain. If you constantly have fantasies where for example “the child AI wanted it too” then it can desensitize you and making it harder and harder to push that thought aside when in a tempting situation. Instead of replacing the real thing with a fantasy you are preparing for the real thing. Some pedophiles already interpret children’s behavior as sexual that isn’t at all, but the AI might be told to act in that way and strengthen these beliefs.

      This is still something that is and has to be studied more to fully understand it. Of course this is difficult because of the stigma. There might be differences between people who only are attracted to children and ones that are attracted to adults and children and there is just not enough data yet, but even the communities in which pedophiles who do not act on their attraction discuss coping strategies this is heavily discussed and controversial.

      If you are interested in the subject a bit more, this is a start: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8419289/

    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      Maybe the next step to actually life these fantasies are so close they still become a problem because the hand isnt satisfying enough to use?

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        The problem with that argument is, that you can translate that to games, movies, books and basically everything. What if a person isn’t satisfied by killing people in pc games? What if they go into real life?

        That argument is only valid for people who can’t differentiate between reality and fiction. And usually those people need medical help.

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          So, you imagine a world where friends of yours say things like “God, I want to kill people so badly. Fuck, I just wish society would let me.” And then what, they play Call of Duty until they climax?

          If that’s how it is, god damn, maybe I do agree with Jack Thompson.

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            People who already have a desire for the real thing usually won’t be satisfied by pc games or whatever.

            The point is, that usually fiction doesn’t fuel desires to be tested out in real life

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              People who already have a desire for the real thing usually won’t be satisfied by pc games or whatever.

              Exactly correct.

              And, what desire is it that 6-year-old-AI enjoyers have again? I guess the 6-years-old part is incidental?

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      Wrong. People who allow these desires to fester, or as you suggest, actively seek out fulfillment for them, is not good for anyone. It’s not good for the pedophiles, because it will increase the need for fulfilling their illegal desires, and it won’t help kids, obviously because it emboldens pedophiles.

      Have you ever experienced something you like, and said to yourself: “definitely not doing more next time.”

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      As a man who was descending to a dark place when I was a teen, I can say this with confidence:

      This kind of content, like CP or r*pe-y stuff, even if clearly not real and only a fantasy, feeds these desires, and makes them grow. In time, if you continue to foster it, they will bleed into real life, and then it becomes a real problem. That’s why this kind of stuff is scary.

      Thankfully, I was able to spot this pattern before it became a problem, that is a dangerous slippery slope