• InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, China are being “generic assholes” right now, but not crossing the lines into “serious villain shit” yet, at least for people who aren’t in China.

        But if they touch Taiwan, oh hell yeah.

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          2 months ago

          I mean there are chinese spies in europe, which suppress, bully and sometimes even kill chinese journalists who have fleed (?) to europe. And thats not even a conspiracy theory, there were investigative journalists who have uncovered this in several countries. So I’d say that china is reeealy close to that villain line

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            2 months ago

            Yeah, I think thats still really brushing the line.

            This is a carrot and stick thing, by making Russia an extreme example we can steer them back from the edge.

            But we do need to have other sanctions, they’re just being dickholes.

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            2 months ago

            Yes.

            And when they start murdering people we bring down the wrath of God on them.

            That’s the problem with Russia, you have to be nice, up to the point they cross the line, then you turn the doom music on.

            We needed to start crushing their balls with a hydraulic press when they took Crimea, this is on us.

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              I mean, it probably would’ve been ideal then but as usual, America was recovering from/embroiled in the last Conservative disasters (financial crisis, Afghanistan/Iraq.) And Obama had just burned a lot of political capital giving people healthcare.

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                2 months ago

                W annihilated our foreign policy, destroyed it completely.

                And yeah, Obama burned everything on the aca and recovering the economy while fox News had mustard gate and tan suit gate and saluting a guy with a coffee cup gate.

                His foreign policy was a mess, but at least he started the pivot away from the middle east back to meaningful places, but we really needed to deal with Russia then.

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                2 months ago

                If they try for Taiwan, the whole west, you know, the people who depend on Tsmc chips for literally everything.

                We went to war over oil you better believe we’d mobilize to fuck for literally all our tech.

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                  2 months ago

                  over oil against Iraq. And that’s a shame. Even back then “the whole west” wasn’t united behind that lie.

                  China isn’t Iraq.

                  Iran neither. Iraq was an artificial state. Iran is there in some form for more than 2 millennia. 3?

                  Russia is in Ukraine. Israel is, with the help of U.S. trying to start a war in “middle east”. Let’s say that China “try for Taiwan”, do you really think that the U.S. can “mobilize” effectively on all these fronts. And would Europe follow U.S.?

                  Another question would be, let’s say that Trump is the next president: What would that change about your world war 3 fantasies?

                  • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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                    Not much actually.

                    Because the president only controls the country if they aren’t a complete fucking moron, otherwise it’s like his first term where literally everyone told him to go fuck himself. :)

                    It helps not being lead by inbred fucktards, as the history of Russia has eminently proven.