• Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    So wait, the poor and the hopeless, looking for some kind of help, voted unanimously for TRUMP, and those happy with their current conditions and wanting no change voted for Harris.

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      maybe youre just completely unfamiliar with the word “conservative”. those red states dont want change. they want to conserve their regressive stance.

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        I think it’s pretty clear that the current Republican party is fundamentally different than the one of 15 years ago. Whether they consider themselves conservative or not, they are the party that is promising change from the status quo.

        The parties have clearly changed roles with respect to manual laborers. The blue wall doesn’t exist anymore because of this. What it all means, I have no idea, but we need to update our mental model of the two parties. Their demographic have fundamentally changed.

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          They are just lieing to the uneducated gullible masses they created. I suppose you can phrase it as “promising change from the status quo”, but it isn’t exactly accurate.

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            I have to disagree, It is 100% accurate. The change will not make non-billionaire lives any better, but there is definitely change from the status quo. There are huge shifts with the cabinet appointments already away from qualified “Washington Insiders” to unqualified “Trump Loyalists”. That is a huge change from the status quo. Even during the first Trump admin he appointed mostly qualified career politicians. This is different, as promised. It won’t be better…

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        I don’t, but a large chunk of america does. I think that speaks a lot to the democrats messaging.

        The world’s richest man is helping a billionaire get elected and that’s not one of your main points to voters? No but Harris can’t attack billionaires because that’ll anger all the ones on her side.

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      Oklahoma has voted for Republican presidential candidates all but once since 1952 (in 1964), with the Democratic candidate having failed to pick up a single county in the state in all elections since 2004

      History. What you obviously weren’t taught.

      You must be from Oklahoma.

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        Just because the person you are replying to has a different opinion about how people vote, doesn’t mean they are a trump supporter.

        I don’t think this person is your enemy.

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        They never said they voted for him. They pointed out that the living conditions in the red state are worse, and the chose to vote for Trump. Presumably under some kind of belief that he will ameliorate those conditions.

        Before you tell me he won’t, I know that he won’t. They don’t know that though. And they have gigantic right wing echo chambers telling them all about how he will.

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      I see the ones under republican state leadership, clamoring for change, yet in reality voting for the same assholes that govern them into the ground? Not sure how you’re not seeing that, though I imagine it’s willful

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        theres a reason education goes out the windows in red states… otherwise they might understand theyre voting against their own best interests.

        its a priority to keep them stupid to stay red

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      You know, folks are giving you a lot of unnecessary shit for this comment. And I get that when viewed with sufficient context and cultural awareness of American politics, the meme clearly implies at least a correlation between voting blue and an improved quality of life. (edit: which mind you I do believe exists, at least in so far as it compares to voting red)

      But I also saw it and thought, “this meme could easily be interpreted by MAGA cultists to justify their vote for Trump”. They would of course be wrong, but with the isolated set of data provided by the meme, it really doesn’t only imply what it thinks it implies.

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      The ignorant and gullible voted for trump. Just like past time, nothing in their lives will improve and the US will be less secure and worse off.