i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out

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    Had nothing to do with it… or at least insignificantly. The Dems on a platform of “were not him” and the economy is booming… while people where hurting and got shafted by the wave of devaluation… people are angry… and the let’s keep going on the same path and change nothing and so nothing party did not get people out to vote.

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        Trump will have had 4 years to Putin up America by then. I’m not sure elections will matter any more by then. This is all just academic.

        “Democrats lost because of this out that… They’ll never learn…” “Trump won because of that…”

        Who fucking cares anymore? The fascists are in charge now.

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          So if the fascist are in charge does that mean you just give up? No resistance? No civil war? Just hand America over to the fascists?

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            … No resistance? No civil war?

            Who’s going to be on my side? Trump won the popular vote. Think we can rely on ppl that can’t even bother to vote to come actually put their lives in peril for a cause? Who would I fight with and what in the fuck are we even fighting for?

            I’ll be in the fight anyway, as soon as there actually is one, but Americans will need to wake the fuck up before that’s possible.

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              Think we can rely on ppl that can’t even bother to vote to come actually put their lives in peril for a cause?

              All that needed be said on the subject.

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              put their lives in peril for a cause?

              I mean if liberals weren’t so willing to through palestinians under the genocide train maybe you’d have some support? start but recanting your behavior with your community. go and support people in it and you’ll be surprised.

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                start but recanting your behavior with your community. go and support people in it and you’ll be surprised.

                You’re talking out of your ass. You don’t know me or what I do for my community and you’re being pretty self righteous. So listen here:

                Too late for any of this to matter, as I’ve said. Blame liberals. Blame Democrats. Trump is in power. Now it gets worse for everyone. Maybe you’ll enjoy the revenge of watching American liberals suffer. Maybe it will outweigh the additional suffering to the Palestinians in your mind.

                Personally, I was never a big fan of Biden or Kamala but I voted for both of them out of necessity. I didn’t agree with Israel’s response to the Hamas attack. I wish Biden had taken a stand. Kamala would have been better but not great. Trump is far, far worse.

                Too many Americans are ignorant to the binary choice they have and they threw their vote away. Too many Americans are either hateful or gullible enough to vote for Trump. Too many are just lazy or not interested. All that ignorance and anger has given power to a narcissist fascist, who loves, I mean loves Israel. He’s in charge of a vast arsenal and the halfway serious people from his last administration won’t have anything to do with him this time. This time he’s only appointing loyalists, just like a fascist.

                Trump’s going to deport anyone he can from the US right away. Israel will do whatever they want with blessings and help. Trump will try to cling to power for more than four years. The next election might not count (Putin style, Trump’s buddy). This may get worse for some time to come.

                Support cuts both ways and the sane people left in America got none of it this election. Now we all face the consequences.

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                  I like how instead of taking the sound advice to reach out within your community for support you take offense and try to rationalize your support for genocide. enjoy trump you’ve certainly earned him. makes popcorn

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                    makes popcorn

                    You are heartless and ignorant and I regret wasting the effort of typing that all out.

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            Civil war? What kind of shit talk is this?

            Sound like you’re rooting for that clusterfuck of an option.

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      It’s possible the idea that they ran a “not Trump” campaign is true enough, and that was part of the failure vs. being more to the left or vocal or any number of other things suggested. But the very fact that “not Trump” made people not show up and throw the election to him, or worse vote FOR him, says a lot about the state of the country.

      I get it, people are hurting economically and somehow get blinded into promises that magic will happen. But Trump? Anyone voting this time around was around when he was in office the first time…are we that short memory? Yeah, we apparently are…repeating the same thing over and over expecting different results. And that can be applied to both sides, but one of them was the same guy.

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        I think you, someone who probably keeps up on the news and outrage and etc. are overestimating how much others do.

        People are absorbed in their day to day life. Trump’s gonna appoint RFK to a health leadership position? That’s a far away concept with only vague implications for people who are having to take payday loans for the first time to make rent. Harris didn’t truly run a campaign of hope and change like '08 Obama.

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        Why? America is the country of fuck around and find out. There where no consequences, no prison time, no perp walk… there was no find out… so by extension… there must not have been a fuck around. It must have been a lot of Dems screetching about stuff but no actual smoke or fire.

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          Well they couldn’t punish trump or else they might ruin the fantasy that the wealthy and in charge are untouchable and they might be next for all the shit they pull.

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      The 2024 presidential election was like a really hairy credit card bill. Republicans ran on a platform of ignoring the debt all together and not making any payment at all, letting it get further out of hand. Democrats got blasted for proposing to make a minimum payment that did nothing toward interest. Neither choice was going to get us out of debt. But one of the choices is definitely going to bankrupt us. We could have made a payment. Now we’re in way over our head instead.