• Codex@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    As a tall man who likes to walk at night, I have long understood that women alone at night do not wish to encounter me. So when I happen to find myself following a woman down the street, I will either slow down, cross the street, or stop and look at a sign or something for a minute to give her some space.

    In a dangerous and shitty world, a person has to find subtle and quiet ways to express care, compassion, and solidarity. It costs me nothing to make a woman feel safer.

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      3 months ago

      This is the way, and good for you.

      Purposefully making women afraid they’re about to get assaulted is abhorrent.

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      26 days ago

      I have similar experiences. I am 6’9" and weight 290lbs. I also have daughters, so I try my best to not be intimidating. Doesn’t always work, but at least I can say I try.

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      3 months ago

      on the one hand, you’re right and I agree with you.

      on the other hand, I’ve got places to be and other people walk so fucking slow.

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      While working i am occasionally in parking garages which can be dark and creepy. If i see a woman walking alone I’ll try to make some noise like pulling out my keys. People with bad intentions will be stealthy, hopefully they get that I’m not a threat

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        He’s not a “Sucker Idolizing Mediocre Pussy”

        He’s a man making sure women feel a little safer.

        Using the word “SIMP” in this context runs counter to every example of protective familymen I’ve ever seen. Derision against his behavior is as good as calling yourself a creep, a predator, an enemy of all that is good and right.

        You have the morals of an opportunistic thug … yet I have no doubt you think yourself some kind of faithful man

  • papalonian@lemmy.world
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    So everyone here is saying fuck anon and I agree, but I agree because they are aware of it and intentionally doing things on purpose to exacerbate the situation.

    But like, if you’re a physically larger dude (maybe even cursed with a hint of melanin), and you’ve got to walk behind a woman at 2am… it’s just a shitty situation for both people, where both of you feel like you have to do something you shouldn’t have to do (women feeling the need to run, defend themselves, or cry for help, and men feeling the need to change their route, stand around and wait until she leaves, or do something awkward and potentially more scary like announce their presence).

    I’m definitely not advocating for women to be less cautious on the streets at night or anything like that at all, it’s an unfortunate reality that they need to stay vigilant and aware to remain safe. It just really sucks that the way it comes across a lot of the time does little to protect anyone from any actual harm, and just makes normal people feel like shit for making someone feel like they’re about to get raped.

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      If you’re a big guy and you find yourself walking behind a woman at 2am AND, unlike anon, you‘re not a complete sociopath, you have two options in a nutshell. One, you move your ass and overtake, walking fast. Two, you change the side of the road. Both minor inconveniences.

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        Doesn’t have to be women, I’ve accidentally startled dudes as well. Being a pretty broad and tall dude I usually only keep my size in mind to keep out of the way or make sure I don’t bump into things or hit my head on stuff.

        But when I think about it, of course it would be intimidating to run across someone a foot and a half taller and twice your weight. It would be like me being tailed by Shaq in the middle of the night.

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      Hear hear! As a bigger guy with a faster pace, I have yet to find a way that doesn’t make everyone uncomfortable while also making me frustrated as hell because I can’t walk at my own pace.

      Even worse, I’m probably walking with my dog, who likes an even faster pace, and she’s a rescue who looks scary and isn’t yet well behaved

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      (maybe even cursed with a hint of melanin)

      That euphemism is a lot worse than just saying “black”.

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            Awesome! According to me, the person I was talking about, “being cursed with a hint melanin” is an obvious in-joke to other black or mixed people. I’ll keep describing myself however I like, and you do the same!

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            A curse is a condition that bestows a disadvantage. Being black is not a curse in and of itself, but being black + being in any one of many places around the world today is definitely a curse-esque combination due to racism.

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              I roll with disadvantage every time I try to avoid people being offended on my behalf for comments I make about myself. Such is my curse as a sarcastic biracial man in modern America.

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                  I’m not being judgemental. I literally told you to continue using and disliking words as you saw fit. You’re the only one that seems upset.

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      3 months ago

      As a physically large man who used to work a job that meant he was walking home late at night in the city, just cross the road to overtake. If you’re walking that much faster than the other person, you will overtake pretty soon.

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        Shit, I cross the road to overtake because I’m a smoker and don’t want to inconvenience non-smokers with my addiction. Never even crossed my mind that may make people feel safer.

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          Thank you. As that vice gets rarer, the impact on other of the smell is worse and worse. It’s not my business if you choose that vice but I appreciate any effort not to inflict it on the rest of us

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      And, illegal if you can make the argument that OP knew or should have known their behavior would be unwelcome.

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          Depends on jurisdiction, but in a fair number it would be “menacing”.

          A person is guilty of menacing when by some movement of body or any instrument the person intentionally places another person in fear of imminent physical injury.

          That’s Delaware’s, but different states do it differently, and some out that classification under stalking.

          Following someone around intentionally and knowingly causing them fear of injury is illegal. Why on earth would you even for a moment think you’re allowed to do that? It’s like thinking guns are legal so you can point your gun at someone on the street.

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            I can’t think of a time before this I’ve seen the word ‘meanacing’ used as a verb and not an adjective.

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            Why on earth would you even for a moment think you’re allowed to do that?

            Because OP actually lives in that building and the rest comes down to proving his intent which is extremely difficult in every situation. You’re “allowed” to do it because proving that someone literally walking to their home has intent to menace is so difficult that no authorities will even try to prosecute.

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              Lives in the same building for one of the examples given. And we’re not DAs, we get the benefit of OP telling us their state of mind and intent which involves very explicitly making choices of dress, behavior and demeanor for the explicit purpose of quite literally menacing women for his own amusement.

              Difficult to prosecute doesn’t make something legal.

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    I’ve had a couple of arsehats try this on me.

    Unfortunately i grew up in a much nastier neighborhood than they did and have a tendency towards violence i have no problems advertising

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        Intentionally causing a person to fear harm is assault. Greentext is committing assault. It might not be possible to convict for it, but it’s still assault.

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        They had legitimate reason to believe they were in danger. Not assault at all. Unlikely to be assault.

        Edit: Guess I shouldn’t say “definitely not assault”. Don’t have all the information here, so can’t come to any definitive conclusions.

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    Follow-up should be about becoming the manager of a McDonald’s and realising that this small amount of authority over people allows you to make their lives miserable.