!endlesswar@lemmy.ca

Seems to be purely to post misinformation with repeated claims that Russia is innocent and the US caused the Ukraine situation, that they’re stopping Ukraine from agreeing to Russia’s super amazing peacedeals, etc.

This is the sort of garbage one would expect to find on ML or Hex, is CA intended to be the same low quality instance?

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    11 days ago

    I imagine that the discussion we are having would be more beneficial to c/main

    However the banhammer is a tool that can make any comment look like a nail,

    That is why methods are important, if your only tool is a hammer, the screws will look like nails. And people waiting for a solution will be expecting a “thunk”.

    In real life, people do not get arrested for reposting fake news. Well, maybe if you call a war “war” in some countries. Correcting myself, in real life, people should not get arrested for reposting fake news.

    Many people share them because they do not know better, are afraid, for many reasons. I have so many examples in my family. Usually, speaking with them with compassion and understanding, while using a common language works.

    But there are people that benefit from it, instigators, bad actors. How long do you think it should be allowed to fester before you get to a point of no return?

    From my experience, the places doing it properly without installing a censorship state, are the ones with well-defined and transparent process. They are doing proper investigations, working with the community, taking proper action against bad actors. Canada is not far from achieving it, it needs work, and I wish it was faster.

    You cannot expect that an online community that depends on volunteer work would have the same level of scrutiny. I don’t even know if it would be possible to create some sort of committee to oversee lemmy.ca like is common in some forums and other open-source communities.

    Do these users, or the users that might post a misinformed take within the power-users’ posts deserve bans? Do we analyze every comment, post and news-source and remove those that meet the criteria for MDM? …

    Yeah, those are the questions that need to be discussed! And plans made over it.

    I have facts, experience and opinion - for one, I am averse to mass scanning, even more without proper methods, but I have been proven wrong many times, if people think is the right way to go, I might as well understand it better and help where I can.

    Back, to the community from OPs post

    I imagine you are old enough in lemmy.ca to remember Geopolitics, trying to be more neutral, but the mod there would pin all his posts to hide people’s post, or just delete them. The account was also accumulating bans across instances until they were banned fully in this instance. Endless war does not try to be neutral, and the mod accumulated an even longer rep sheet, and in less than 2 months.

    I understand a human can read their posts, analyze their actions, and understand they are acting in bad faith intentionally, dishonestly arguing and ill temper when talking to people. I don’t think an AI can classify this kind of thing consistently yet. But in quantitative analyze, there are enough bans and content removed to warranty at least an investigation and a warning.

    …Over the past couple years, they have become far more careful to avoid…

    Wow, that user was banned in so many communities and had a lot of content removed over time, including in ml.

    They post many memes, but their reaction to people’s comments are not the most amicable, they take everything as direct offence, that could surely be improved.