for starters people around here tend to misinterpret what you’re saying accidentally or willfully, far more than my experience with reddit previously.

Honestly, this is what has driven me away. No matter how innocuous something I say is, there are a bunch of “well, askshewly” asshats to argue an irrelevant part of your statement, or start the “whataboutism” shit. It’s exhausting, and frankly, takes all the fun out of it.

That and the bots reposting reddit shit. I may as well go back to reddit. Plus Narwhal is still working…

That’s your opinion. Not everyone agrees with you.

Yes, I have, have you ever used your brain?

I’ve never seen those in person, but after an image search, yeah, exactly. I only used starbucks as an example because they are everywhere, and most people have seen them before.

And you can buy bent straws in multiple materials, which are not intended to be disposable.

This comment thread is about disposable/plastic straws. I have been talking about getting rid of plastic/disposable straws in every comment. I never implied I was talking about reusable. I didn’t know I needed to be so pedantic.

No, as I have said in MULTIPLE other comments. Straws exist in other flavors than plastic or disposable. Non disposables also come in a variety of shapes. People can use those. Where did I say they shouldn’t have something they need.

Like I also said in another comment, people who “need” straws now all just died of dehydration before plastic/disposable straws existed?

Swirl the cup? You can get them evenly dispersed evenly pretty easily.

so, people who existed before the advent of the plastic straw just all died of dehydration? GTFO of here with that shit.

Yes, straws are convenient, and can be helpful to people with certain disabilities. However, that’s a small subset of the population, and they can use reuasble straws, if they need them. Plastic/disposable straws are useless.

I would tend to agree, and in the case of places that are strictly amusements parks, I totally agree. However, there are very good organizations out there, that are helping animals that can’t live in the wild, because of injury, being some assholes “pet” until it became too much to deal with, or saving species from asshole humans killing them to near extinction levels. Unfortunately, that means those animals have to live in captivity. It’s not just a simple ban all captive animals thing.

Same way I already do, tear the plastic “lid” off and dump it down my throat.

So, your suggestion is to continue to kill the planet, because we might inconvenience a small subset of the population? I get it, I really do, it’s not fair for them, but those people can carry reusables if they need a straw.

As far as I’m concerned, plastic lids/cups should go away too. I’m simply pointing out that straws are useless, and if anyone cared enough, it would be pretty simple to resolve the straw issue.

People have been using money forever, they’ll be fine.

As I said, I hate using Starbucks as an example, but they have drinks that are roughly the same consistency, and they are fine to drink out of their newer lids sans straws.

No, straw are popular because that’s what we have always been given, and people want convenience. Yeah, a small subset of people may need that assistance, but let’s not pretend that most people are being altruistic.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they already have plastic lids on them, which are bad, but no extra with my suggestion.

Did you read what I said? I said I hate using Starbucks as an example. It just happened to be the first thing that came to mind, that everyone would know what I was talking about. Yes, Starbucks sucks, and so do their plastic products, BUT as I said, that STYLE is what I was talking about. In fact, I said something more like the top of a soda can would be good.

That’s fine, they can have their own non disposables for their own needs. We do NOT need to keep polluting the planet (yeah I know there are plenty of other ways we do it) with EVERYTHING being disposable.

No doubt. But something with a smaller hole in it, like the newer Starbucks (I’m sorry I hate using them as an example) cold cups works fine with ice too. Hell, something shaped like the top of a soda can would do it, no more difficult to make than the straw accepting lids, and then no straws.