In the rest of the world, saying “boo-hoo, whatever” to child massacres you could prevent simply by accepting the scientific consensus is viewed as less than civil.

No, no it doesn’t.

Yes, it does.

Refusing to believe science, asserting your bullshit as more credible than Harvard and Oxford.

Always the same.

More crying, more bullshit NRA propaganda, zero science.

Exactly the same with gun nuts, always.

He’s literally using whataboutism.

It’s a garbage rhetoric “tactic” and you should not engage in it with him.

Going “b-b-but bathtubs” isn’t him showing any science on gun regulation, it’s pathetic whataboutism, all people like him are capable of.

And even with cars, a mode of transport that can be fatal if there’s accident (but the main use of which is transportation), there already is reasonable regulation, because ONE NEEDS A LICENCE TO DRIVE, and there are criteria you need to meet to be allowed a licence.

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No no, I’m not trying understand anything here. I’m displaying how delusional gun nuts are, for example by thinking unlimited access to firearms is a “human right”? I mean I know the education in the US is bad, but that’s just… next level bad.

Again, the same “talking points”.

At least Flat Earthers try to make their own science. You lazy gun nuts literally repeat three NRA talking points on repeat.

So for you, it’s acceptable if children die if they’re in their late teens and were involved with anything illegal.

That’s quite barbaric viewed from the rest of the world, really. Just like corporal punishment in general. But you also have the whole private prisons industry thing so… Ew.

“Our children are dying to gun massacres we could easily prevent but I like my toys and can’t think for myself so I’m gonna keep spreading the things I heard on NRA.tv”

The science supports the effectiveness of rights violations?

Do you honestly think everyone having access to a firearm is a fundamental human right?

Because… it very much isn’t.

For more about those, you can read on

https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/human-rights

And here, in a listed format, and you’ll very much notice the absence of being armed.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/universal-declaration-of-human-rights/

Let’s take article 3 as an example of a fundamental human right.

Everyone has the right to life (and to live in freedom and safety).

Do you think the US would manage to better protect that right if they accepted the actual science on the issue, rhe one which proves people would be safer and there’d be less gun violence if reasonable regulation was instilled on a national level?

Hope this helps, because people like you need to be helped so we can help ensure better fundamental human rights in the US.

Works literally everywhere where reasonable gun regulation has been implemented on a national level.

https://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.full.pdf+html

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/

Like I said, unfortunately for you, we rational people have all the science backing us up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You follow narrative, we follow science.

Doesn’t change the fact that they’re still kids.

Probably a reason the limit is 21, yes? Perhaps something about still being a developing human being?

And you’re really gonna die on the hill of “we have no issue since only if you think of all teenagers as kids would this even be true”?

This is what I mean with the "always the same shitty propaganda, never any science.

So boring.

Teenagers are kids.

Also

https://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.full.pdf+html

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/

Like I said, unfortunately for you, we rational people have all the science backing us up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Do you honestly think everyone having access to a firearm is a “fundamental human right”?

Because… it very much isn’t.

For more about those, you can read on

https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/human-rights

And here, in a listed format, and you’ll very much notice the absence of being armed.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/universal-declaration-of-human-rights/

Let’s take article 3 as an example of a fundamental human right.

Everyone has the right to life (and to live in freedom and safety).

Do you think the US would manage to better protect that right if they accepted the actual science on the issue, rhe one which proves people would be safer and there’d be less gun violence if reasonable regulation was instilled on a national level?

Hope this helps, because people like you need to be helped so we can help ensure better fundamental human rights in the US.

https://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.full.pdf+html

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/

Like I said, unfortunately for you, we rational people have all the science backing us up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Show any science backing up anything saying gun control wouldn’t help with the violence issue. Or is your argument now “I’m willing to allow children to be massacred on a weekly basis in practice with the excuse to allowing it to continue will perhaps serve a purpose for some fictional scenario I’ve been fantasising about”?

Because letting children die instead of just using sensible gun regulations like most of the world is a must in case you need to try another jan 6th, huh?

Btw firearms aren’t the leading cause of death for children, that study included “children” who are full grown ass 18-19yo

What’s the age at which you can legally be served alcohol — an adult beverage — in the USA? Is it above 19, perchance?

Do you know how fucked you have to be to say that “no it’s all bullshit, our children only have gun violence as a leading cause of death if you include the older children, so there’s actually nothing to worry about, no problem”.

You guys repeat the same pathetic bullshit everytime, and just like I said, you never have any science. At least the Flat Earth people are making up models of their fictional bullshit but you’re not even capable of that.

https://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.full.pdf+html

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/

Like I said, unfortunately for you, we rational people have all the science backing us up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Cry all you want big boy, the science is on the side of us non-brainwashed, rational people who understand the need for actual gun regulation in a civilised country.

Too bad the US hardly qualifies to that group any more. Third world level literacy rates, so many homeless that human shit is an actual issue in supposedly civilised cities, and firearms as the leading cause of death for children.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/darreonnadavis/2023/10/05/firearms-now-no-1-cause-of-death-for-us-children---while-drug-poisoning-enters-top-5/

There’s a literal mountai in the of evidence showing that all you need to do to start facing this problem is reasonable nation-wide gun regulation. Something everyone knows works and something that you won’t find science against, because gun regulation being the answer is as clear to most people as is the fact that the Earth is round, not Flat.

But you will find Flat Earther crazies who won’t believe in the science even when their own science proves that they are indeed wrong.

You’re emotional. You get so angry when you’re reminded that you go against science because you don’t have the balls to actually use your own brain.

https://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.full.pdf+html

And you having “shot guns” doesn’t make you an expert on guns

Oh yeah no, it doesn’t bear any rationale to this argument. It’s just there because gun nuts always default to the “you’re just afraid of my pew-pew sticks, that’s why you support gun regulation”. Nah. I love guns, they’re fun. But you know what I care more about than loud bangs? That children don’t have to live in fear of some incel fucktards charging into their school with a pimped out AR15 with a bumpstock.

There’s literally not a single peer reviewed study that concludes that less gun control is better, for anything.

But I’m sure the lack of science won’t stop you, just like it doesn’t stop Flat Earthers.

You’re really just here to prove my point about the willfull ignorance of nuts like you. So… thanks, I guess?

Any gun nut feel like arguing for insanity that are US gun laws?

All you need to do is ignore science and reality and every other country outsider of the US and be convinced that undiagnosed schizophrenics being able to buy a shedload of semi-automatic weapons is necessary for democracy.

All I need to do is remind you that there’s not a single piece of study that supports any of the arguments of the gun nutters.

(Also, just because it seems to matter to these nuts, I started shooting at 12 and have handled everything from old officer’s pistols to shotguns to modern assault rifles, machine guns, grenades, mines, and even AA guns. Shooting is fun, yeah, but having fun isn’t more important than making sure children don’t have to live under the constant threat of their fellow pupils pulling out a semi-auto with a bump-stock.)

But if it does not, it is still used against Israel. What do you want Israel to do?

To stop the genocide they’re committing. I thought this was pretty clear from all the protests?

I think this is really unfair criticism.

I think it’s generally agreed that slaughtering children and raping and torturing people is wrong. Perhaps you were raised differently?

tell them to fuck off without pay

Nah. Appearing will get you money (and visibility), rewarding these loonies.

Even the whiff of money blinds greedy fucks from seeing any consequences.

When poor people put others in danger and/or exploit things for financial benefit, they go to prison.

Stop giving fines for big companies and actually start putting people in fucking prison.

Bring back the gestapo already.

You forgot the “/s”. Please, it’s important in these times.

This is going to be less effective and less popular than the prohibition of cannabis.