It was considered inciting hatred in Sweden and he was being tried for it.

Now you’re just moving goalposts after making a false claim and you don’t even bother to correct it. Of course what I said matters.

You care enough about it for it to be illegal to be homosexual, that is cruel and unusual in most peoples eyes. And yes you do have plenty of crazy, and due to it being fuled by a proselytic religion, it spreads by design and those who do not follow it are “lesser”. Compare that to jewish people, who traditionally doesn’t even allow converts to call themselves jewish. They keep to themselves in Sweden and live completely peacefully. Until recently when synagogs in Sweden are ruined by muslims that take up the fight for Gaza by attacking those that have NOTHING to do with the conflict.

Personally, I haven’t made anything illegal, nor have I attacked anyone. There are 46 countries in the world with majority Muslim populations, 23 declare Islam to be the state religion in their constitutions. The rest either proclaim the state to be secular or make no pronouncement concerning an official religion. I did not make the laws of any of these countries, nor did the majority of the people living in these countries.

Feel free to criticize the dictatorships that use these rules to control and terrify people, we don’t have much love for them, but don’t make this about Muslims in general. Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Do I now assume that all Jewish people are genocidal maniacs? No, because that would rightfully be called antisemitic and it’s equally Islamophobic to hold all Muslim people accountable for the nut jobs who probably did this.

Christianity is the world‘s largest religion. Not that it makes any difference how big or small any religion is for inciting hatred against it to be wrong or hatred against anyone for that matter. Furthermore, this happened in Sweden and in Sweden Muslims are definitely a minority.

Who is ”they“ in that context? You talk a lot about “them“ doing these things as if that would mean everyone. OTOH I’m Muslim too and I have a large mostly Muslim family and a large friend circle and I mostly consume Arabic media. I can tell you that I’m mostly busy working, doing laundry, thinking about what to cook, wondering which show to watch next, trying to have a social life and being angry about the Gaza genocide and the rise of Nazism in the west. That’s the reality for pretty much everyone I know, except for those lucky bastards who are retired or still in school. But they have their own shit to worry about.

We don’t care about pride flags and crazy people, we have enough of crazy to deal with at home. This guy in particular pissed me off because he was just trying to spread hatred, how does that make the world a better place? Even the Swedish government wanted to get rid of him but couldn’t, because he would be facing torture in Iraq, which btw is the same Iraq that received democracy from our friends in the US and their illegal invasion. Not that Saddam was any better.

Anyway. I hope you get my point, we have other things to worry about than this, the guy was a giant asshole and he should have been tried as was intended instead of being assassinated, but don’t involve me or Muslims in general in that. I’m against capital punishment and I couldn’t think of anyone I know who would be in favor of that, no matter why.

I also don’t start political discussions with my Hindu Indian friends when I see that there’s some lynch mob attacking Muslims somewhere in India and I leave my White American friends alone when there’s the next shooting conducted by a far right guy. So please just give me a break from your generalizations.

Got it you’re just trolling

Idk man YouTube, TikTok, Meta, doesn’t matter all social media platforms are anyway just feeding on rage bait and I’m pretty sure they have significantly radicalized millions if not hundreds of millions at this point.

To them it doesn’t matter if you’re cheering for ISIS or Hitler or Israel, they just care about more engagement so that some product teams can show some engagement & add KPIs going up during performance review season.

Idk I think some kind of supremacy is accurate here indeed? Some seek white supremacy, other ethnic supremacy, religious supremacy, it’s all the same poison to me.

Care to elaborate? You’re just kind of asking a loaded question, but you don’t make any actual argument.

Care to elaborate? They’re just kind of asking a loaded question, but don’t make any actual argument.

I don’t understand the point of your comment.

I get your point and while we don’t know anything yet about the murder it’s likely linked to the guy‘s actions.

Let’s just go ahead and assume the people arrested killed him for real and they killed him for what he did. Then I think there really are no heroes in that story.

The guy was inciting hatred for which there was even a trial and it was a pointless act in the sense that I don’t see what good could potentially come from it.

Did he deserve to die for that? I’m against the capital punishment, so I think no one deserves to die for anything and I agree that the killers are fascists.

I’m just saying that burning books and executing people isn’t the kind of world I want to live in in general.

I‘m Muslim and I have a huge mostly Muslim family and a large friend circle and I consume mostly Arabic media. We honestly don’t know who you are, we don’t care about you and we have better things to do than trying to enforce any laws on you.

Fun fact I have some atheists in my family and we did not behead or stone them. This might surprise you, but we have better things to do.

I like that you are inclusive of all Abrahamic religions, but could we just agree to not burn any books at all? It’s just a stupid act of violence and I don’t know what good it has ever achieved throughout history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_burning

Yeah I have read both the Quran and some exempts from Mein Kampf. Cannot recommend the latter.

My favorite part from Mein Kampf was the one about the fox, the goose and the tiger who are all assumed to be hostile towards each other. Because of this „Arians“ shouldn’t mingle with Jews. If you’re troubled with following the soundness of the argument that’s because there is none.

Let’s ignore for a second that it’s just outright offensive to compare the books of any world religion to Mein Kampf. Even if you don’t believe in the whole God thing, then the Quran would still be a brilliant collection of verses spoken by some illiterate orphan without any education somewhere in the Arabian desert. And I can tell you that because I‘m a native speaker and even the hardcore atheist Arabs agree with me on that.

I think no one should be assassinated and capital punishment shouldn’t exist. And believe me when I tell you that I want freedom of speech. But there’s freedom of speech and hate speech. I don’t want freedom of hate speech and I don’t care who it is targeting.

I still don’t think anyone deserves capital punishment for anything, but to use this to generalize against all Muslims and our religious books is rightfully being called out as what it is, Islamophobia. Say the exact same things you said just about burning the Torah and we wouldn’t even have to argue about that being antisemitic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zsecVLjabzY

Just a stupid joke and I mixed up Ben Affleck with Ethan Hawke

Yeah tbh as a Muslim it’s pretty tiring and offensive to read all of that shit when most of us are just busy living our lives like everyone else. And we’re here on the supposedly progressive and liberal Lemmy…

Your point being?

Thanks for generalizing 1.5bn people, Ben Affleck

Thanks, while we’re at it let’s burn some books by Jewish authors too.

See what I did there? Burning books is never a good look on you.

I don’t think I understand your comment. You think it’s hard to side against genocide? Because that’s what most of us are doing here.

Palestinian here, not in the US. So Harris would have done genocide but without more 2000 pound bombs. Trump does it with them.

Your voters couldn’t decide against genocide, they could only decide with which weapons it will be continued. You guys have a problem.

Edit: greetings to the Lemmy Hasbara division. Responses are kinda wild, didn’t expect this. I should post more here.