Well let’s not conflate what I’m right about, and the rest of your comment 😉

People vote with agreement. Ya ain’t gonna change that.

The recommendations on nounself language are not my own. Take that issue up with them. No one has a problem with dragons pronouns. They have a problem with their inability to write consistently and use them in a way that is understandable.

You are seeking and choosing these disagreements and friction, and there’s no profit to you. Look at this post, you spent all this time arguing with people and they are consistently disagreeing with you. It’s possible the whole group is disrespecting your concerns, sure, but it’s also possible you are approaching the issue with particular energy that doesn’t translate well in text, and is not winning any battles for you. That’s fine, you don’t need to win votes, they don’t matter. Either way, it’s you experiencing negativity in non essential interactions. You are seeking it out, and then cohabitating with it, rather than discarding it. Even a community you have interest in has put you on the bench for a break.

Edit everyone is guilty of getting sucked in sometimes. I am too. I’m laid up from a car wreck and can’t sleep so I’m spending too much time on here, imo.

For a person with very real and very valid stresses and concerns, you are digging up unnecessary fresh ones to add to the collection with these interactions.

Again I am not telling you to leave, or that you are unwelcome anywhere. That is not my place. I’m only responding to the content you have provided to respond to, most relevantly, the way you have commented in this thread.

I see nothing in their comment disregarding neopronouns or even nounself usage inherently, but instead discussing the inconsistent way the dragon person leveraged them.

Nounself pronouns are hard to write legibly with and drag failed to do so successfully. Why? Because drag is their handle as well. Nounself pronouns are not generally the first name of the speaker, as generally seen in the below links table of examples. (but of course not exhaustive examples)

The challenges many ( not just your target) commented on regarding the nounself pronouns are discussed here, and I think their conclusion is a good one. (Provide alternatives for expediency, and accessibility, as readability is inherently challenging)

https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Nounself_pronouns

That wiki certainly isn’t the bible but it’s reasonably discussing the topic, imo.

I am trying to be respectful to you now:

You seem very angry, across all your interactions here in this thread and around your experiences here. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot to be frustrated about in life. I’m not telling you to leave. That’s not my place. But I think you might find a happier experience with a bit of a break, and perhaps heavier curation of who you speak with, and where you hang out. Good luck.

Oh, the dragon thing made quite a stir.

Best to come with receipts when you say stuff like that about someone.

There’s a big difference between dictating what others behavior says about them, and creating a welcome and safe environment for people to learn about themselves, and feel comfortable to explore their identity.

Why are you suggesting what is cis or trans or anything else for someone else’s brain? It comes off like bullies I might have seen in the 90s. “Oh you like art and fantasy? F**!” “Oh you like cooking, like a woman???” It’s best not to make rules of identity for how people express themselves.

Liking art didn’t make me gay, and liking cooking didn’t make me a woman, despite what someone said about me then.

Did not, I’m describing things you can do with gis across the spectrum, ESRI or not, preferably once you have a decent python foundation. Edit I and others are saying “do some non GIS projects in python FIRST, then explore these GIS related things.” Because jumping to scripting in arc pro alone isn’t advised.

Why are you being combative? I’m not hating on them at all. I literally just rattled off common file formats, libraries, and projects to consider. The original comment says they scraped a few things together from tutorials, and I and other comments are discussing how to build a strong foundation, then extend it.

I’ve got no ill will for OP.

Knowing how to script a bit in arc pro does not really mean you know anything about python, or programming for GIS at even a basic professional level. That’s ok, no hate, everyone starts out. Checking out various software, formats and libraries, in addition to getting the python basics down will open a huge world of projects and even work opportunities

Agree, I don’t think I went against that. I certainly didn’t say it’s JUST geojson and web map. That was just a list of keywords. I opened by saying these are more things to get excited about.

If it’s just esri (they said q too), but if it’s just esri, automate the boring stuff + arcpy and you’ll be a happy camper.

Cartographic stuff is super simple in any framework. Data processing and network topology are great things to study that aren’t web map. Remote sensing is the coolest shit and you can literally get free imagery and use free tools to make surface analysis and identification…not as a super raw beginner, but not long after.

Learning about the common open source file formats, storage strategies, and processing libraries is attainable (and desirable) by a beginner who has automate the boring stuff under their belt

Jumping straight into esri and staying there, without getting some general education, is a good way to end up not knowing much about python, and generally developing weaker workflows.and automations, in my professional experience.

Like I said, learn some python basics and good habits, then consider gis.

I like everything about this

Get the basics locked.in before dipping into GIS.

Edit, because someone misunderstood me… You’ll have an easier time extending your existing GIS work by getting a nice foundation of non GIS python skills.

There’s a lot of odd patterns and domain specific requirements in the spatial data world, not even mentioning the nasty beast that esri is.

Provided you listen to my above advice, here are some other keywords that will help excite the home-gis dev: geopandas, (pandas), geojson, geopackage, QGIS, leaflet (not python but easy to connect a leaflet frontend with a python backend), openstreermaps, map box, earthexplorer (USGS free aerial imagery of lots of imagery types)

If it must be esri based, arcpy is a popular library.

Freaking Blair witch cat

Yes. He would have zero issue with your comment. He would smile. He is not attempting to be logically consistent

Checks out, I’ve seen a baby duck there, I don’t think it flew in

I’d say don’t think to much. Get some thin sport material ones and see how you do. If you’re still cold, get thicker ones.

It’s not a waste, you’ll find a time to wear the thin ones

They won’t stand toe to toe. They’ll respond in the night like cowards they are.

I am NOT espousing tolerance. Everyone is foolishly assuming I’m saying “don’t doxx AND DONT DO ANYTHING ELSE”. I’m not. I’m saying doxxing is not the road to success, and is terroristic behavior. There are more effective, more targeted methods available that don’t endanger neighbors and mistaken identities (wrong address)

They want you to normalize behavior like this.

Edit if eating downvotes for disagreeing with this community on popularizing poorly targeted, in accurate methods, that can easily be reversed en masse onto at risk people, by enemies who have lots of guns and lots of free time, (and a displayed proclivity for surreptitiously destroying and shooting things up in the night) then I’m fine with it.

Y’all are clearly ready to just fling violence all over without thinking of innocent people who will be caught up. The votes reflect that.

Our brand, coming to a town near you, unfortunately.

Imo when you doxx someone, it’s implied that you are directing people to go to their house and at minimum, confront them. I totally get the urge to do that with this person. He’s harmed a lot of people with his rhetoric. But even if accurate address, a confrontation can lead to violence when an angry person confronts a hateful person, on their property. I understand your point about protests on their street, but I still believe that will create potential for violence. I am not saying protest is wrong. Protest is great.

If it’s something than a protest or a confrontation, then we are talking about what? Sending dogshit in the mail at the low end, or throwing a Molotov cocktail or similar at the high end. Then my concerns about accuracy are relevant. What if the address is wrong and a random family is the victim?

Also, firebombing is not the society I want to live in, even if Fuentes as trash.

Everyone is so ready to assume I’m an apologist for Fuentes, or a misogynist telling women to just shut up. That’s not it at all, but people here are some ready for violence and so ready to be mad that what was formally a pretty popular sentiment (doxxing and swatting is bad) is now apparently different because the target is a bad dude. I fundamentally believe society is worse if we compromise our behavior because the target is a specific person. I also think the blowback of stooping to that level will result in increased harm of people who are already having a real tough go of things. What some are calling cowardice on my part is, in my opinion, harm reduction for people who need it most, and a call for sanity.

It’s inherently risky because online data can be stale. It’s inherently terroristic because you are essentially saying “hey anyone, go do anything in a normal neighborhood, your enemy is there”. What if there’s a shootout of Fuentes front yard and a bystander is killed? That’s net positive violence for the community that wouldn’t have happened otherwise.

As you said, reddit Boston bomber. That’s another alternative if online sleuthing goes wrong.

Back to my original point: doxxing high profile maga types will popularize the activity, and once they latch on in response they will do it with zero care or caution. You may say they are doing it already, I’m saying once it’s plastered across their nrws feeds they will do it a whole lot more.

That’s MORE net new innocent people put in harms way.

There are effective and existing ways to carry out whatever violence or vengeance or self defence. Doxxing isn’t one of them. Being trained in concealed carry and using a gun is not alike doxxing. Doxxing is like a bomb.

Being armed is fine. Looking after your people is great. Not taking any shit is great. If you feel you need to confront people, do it with a level of accuracy.