Again, well spoken. I’m not very political and I absolutely believe that regardless of who you are, you should be able to share your opinion. However, Free speech doesn’t mean no consequences, and I think as a CEO, it’s important to know when something you say could effect your users views.

With that, they’re governed by board of more than just him so I’m not feeling just yet. Regardless of my believes, him sharing his opinions doesn’t bother me directly but can definitely leave a bad taste.

Very well spoken and I fully agree with you. My mistake for the “Logs” on the VPN part as I know, from what’s public, that it is no logs, with a previous audit in mid 2024. I think what I was really trying to say was that what if they slowly started to change policies more and more to where they keep some sort of identifiable info, or logs.

Either way, thanks for the very detailed conversation. Just playing devil’s advocate here for open conversation. I’m personally very happy with protons services as of now.

Thanks for sharing. I think this is a concern because if they did it for mail, would they do it for the VPN?

I would be more concerned if it turned out the VPN logs were turned over. Because in that seems like a much bigger issue.

What I was referencing was the political news recently with their CEO. Lotta people up in arms about that one. However I haven’t heard of the email one. Was that the one where the Users IP got leaked/turned over?

Any links you can share?

While the original comment has validity, I think it’s important to know that a lot of the proton news you’ll find is very “drop it immediately” biased.

I definitely think the news left a bad taste that’s worth keeping an eye on, but I don’t think it should eliminate them completely as an option. Especially for newer privacy advocates.

Edit: full disclosure for future readers, I may be biased as well since I do continue to use proton services and I love it. But I still try to look at both sides on things like this.

Yeah. I’m trying to compromise based on “threat level” but I’m also happy to try a way to f*** over the data tracking/profiling anyway I can. Lol

Awesome explanation. Thank you! I’ve been getting more into privacy and security here and there and I’ve also degoogled with graphene, run brave with strict blocking, VPN with ad blocking, etc. I knew JavaScript could be bad but never looked into it much. I may make that my next endeavor.

Question on that topic, is blocking JavaScript generally advised in browser settings? I’ve tried it once or twice and noticed things like login buttons might not work. Any difference with using the extensions?

I will definitely check this out. Sounds really promising from the quick glimpse and most importantly, affordable.

Edit: gesture typing made me type adorable lol.

Any specific ones to look into?

Not a contributing comment but just wanted to say:

THIS IS THE WAY

For those that needed to hear that.

I currently use Waze because the features are awesome but how has your experience been with organic maps? I want to use it but worried about it not being great. I haven’t actually tried it.

Thanks for the advice. It isn’t an end all if I can’t get it to work in this way. Just thought I’d give it a try since I saw there was a helper script for Proxmox. I wasn’t aware of the limitations that may come with this though. I guess either upgrading routers in the future for something for customizable may be a better option.

Both great questions. I did not check the hardware and I definitely should have…as far as passthrough I have not. I really only ran the helper script to install the Proxmox VM and configurations. I’ll have to check the settings when I’m back home to see what exactly it did.

Well currently I have a nest wifi pro router that doesn’t allow a lot of customization. (I used to be a Google fan). And since I had a beelink I figured I would try it. I was also wanting to be able to run a VPN on my router and the nest doesn’t allow clients.

TLDR: To make a long story short, Netflix used to be the crown jewel that had everything. Now they arguably have a much worse catalog, for a higher price, on a platform you can’t have your family members share because they live in another household.

I definitely see your point but I can also sympathize with the other point. The way I see it, the market is saturated with streaming services that all get, I assume, licenses to show different shows/movies.

Because of this, consumers are spreading their spending between platforms to potentially watch only specific shows. I would guess that most people really only have a few movies/shows they actually want to watch. The rest being filler.

As an example, maybe people bought paramount+ for Yellowstone. Sure maybe SpongeBob or others that they have, but compared to their entire offering, that’s only a few. Maybe that 10-15 dollars a month makes it worth it but when you keep raising it and offer worse items or cancel actually good shows while keeping alive shitty ones because they’re trending (subjective, I know) then that’s where the anger can stem from I think.

I think if you have a mini PC or something you don’t mins installing server specific OS on, proxmox VE is pretty great. It can be a bit of a headache depending on what you want to do but it also makes expanding your self hosting super easy/fun.

Proxmox let’s you created virtual machines or containers and easily manage them.

Currently I run a mini PC.(Beelinks are great for this and pretty cheap with more power than a raspberry pi)

1. Proxmox VE as the operating system
2. Jellyfin as my media server

• looking to install home assistant and some others as well.

3. Tail scale to use as a VPN into my network privately from anywhere.

Simplest set up? No. But I also just started self hosting. You’re gonna hit some.headaches regardless but it’s also extremely rewarding and I’ve learned alot.

Edit: if you’re only wanting to run one thing (say jellyfin) . A raspberry pi with tail scale and jellyfin is how I started. Works just fine.

Personally, I run the following:

Hardware:

• Mini PC (beelink but used to use raspberry pi)
• 1tb external drive for now

Software/OS

• proxmox (so I can virtuaize what I Host on one machine)
• Ubuntu server in a VM
• jellyfin (media server)
• tailscale (to access my server from anywhere)

One of the top comments mentions starting with plex. I also recommend that. Jellyfin is cool but plex makes a lot of features such as sharing and subtitles much easier. You also can with jellyfin but it’s much more technical. The only reason I went away from it was I felt the direction plex was going seemed a little too commercial for me. And I also like to use open source when I can.