Interesting. I doubt the source material is copyrightable, but I also doubt the consortium is under any legal obligation to provide copies, unless signed some previous agreement to that effect.
was RickRussellTX @ reddit
Interesting. I doubt the source material is copyrightable, but I also doubt the consortium is under any legal obligation to provide copies, unless signed some previous agreement to that effect.
Fundamentally, it’s the same issue that affected the Stanford Prison Experiment & the Milgram experiment. You can’t claim that the subjects naturally developed certain behaviors, if they were being prompted or saw through the prompts.
Since Sherif proved himself to be untrustworthy after the first experiment failed to provide the results he was looking for, we can’t really trust that any of the conditions of the conflict between the campers arose from the campers themselves.
Robbers Cave has been debunked. Short version:
Muzafer Sherif’s first experiment (“Middle Grove”) failed when the two groups worked together to figure out that they were being manipulated. The second experiment (“Robbers Cave”) was only apparently successful because the “camp counselors” were explicitly aiding and abetting the feud between the two groups.
Of course, Sherif didn’t mention these details when he publicized his results.
if the choice is nuclear or carbon I’ll take nuclear
I’m totally with you on that.
My response:
Everybody has easy answers and a proper & permanent disposal site and method are always “just around the corner”.
I am persistently mystified that so many people – many calling themselves “green” or environmentalist – consider this a solved problem.
Spent nuclear fuel piles up in retaining pools at nuclear reactor sites, and we can’t take it anywhere because nobody can figure out where to put it. Everybody has easy answers and a proper & permanent disposal site and method are always “just around the corner”.
Meanwhile, solar and wind – for all of their problems – can meet large portions of our energy needs RIGHT NOW with minimal capital outlay to install new capacity.
“We wouldn’t have to kill so many civilians if the criminals would stop committing crimes.”
The Most Famous Game in History!
Tetris would like a word.
A hot room with 10 days worth of poop.
many of them from abroad, living on the streets as a lifestyle choice
Not so much a dog whistle, as a dog fog horn.
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However, the statement “some white people aren’t white to racists” implies that skin color IS the defining concern. And the direct comparison of white-on-white mistreatment to white-on-nonwhite racist mistreatment is a grasp for moral equivalence.
If Irish immigrants were truly considered nonwhite, maybe they would have been hunted down and slaughtered like indigenous peoples, or separated from their children like African slaves. But these things did NOT happen, and I hold that it is inappropriate to describe the Irish as “not considered white”. Of course they were white. Nobody, not now and not in US history, would describe them as nonwhite. Sure, some people didn’t like the Irish, but that’s a far cry from considering them to be a different race or color.
Irish and Irish-descended could vote, they could go to court to seek redress of grievances, they could marry who they wished, they were not confined to reservations, they could have children without fearing that they would be taken away. Indigenous, African, and sometimes Latino and Asian peoples in the US did not always enjoy such rights, but white people almost always did.
I brought up chattel slavery because the commenter said, “in the US”, and the exemplar for white-on-nonwhite racism in the US is chattel slavery of black Africans. But if one prefers to consider the mistreatment of other nonwhite racial groups, you could certainly hold any of them up to the way Irish were treated, and I daresay that you would have a hard time finding any dimension of mistreatment in which Irish or other white minorities were treated worse than nonwhite peoples.
If Mr. Naumann’s company should make a boatload of cash while supporting his terrible political views, what’s the harm?
/s
Fascists have always used racism as an excuse to define the enemy and back The Great Leader, even when the sides were ethnically similar. It’s not like Poland and France were full of non-white barbarian infiltrators in Europe in the 30s and 40s, but plenty of people used “preservation of the white race” as a reason to back the Nazis.
You should examine that claim critically. The idea that Irish indentured servants were mistreated similarly to their their non-white counterparts in chattel slavery is historical revisionism pushed by white supremacists.
I was ready to dismiss this as hyperbole – after all, there are INNUMERABLE ways that US equipment could make its way to Russian factories.
Then I read the words of the chairman of their board:
Hans Naumann (through interpreter):
I think that Trump, unlike many European politicians, has recognized that the white population must stand together. Americans, Europeans, Australians, they’re roughly 1.5 billion people, but Asians come to six billion.
In my opinion, the world’s demographics compel the two nuclear powers, that’s America and Russia, to stand together.
It turns out they shipped equipment directly from their German facilities to Russian military companies, potentially in violation of the 2014 sanctions.
you’d like it better over there full-time
The passive-aggressive version of “don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out”.
But can it run Crysis?