This has to be a joke…

Aww, poor fashie!

There is no whataboutism in pointing out your argument is reversed and completely false. Also, “whataboutism” is a dog whistle word used by Westerners for deflection used to abrupt or end the argument when there are no real counterpoints. And since US government loves to demonize their “near-peer competitors” (official term) China and Russia, it is perfectly fair to argue with US in perspective.

will be kicked out for much less than what tiktok does

Tesla car cameras were being used by CIA to spy on Chinese military areas. Tesla got banned from roaming around military areas and still operates and manufactures there.

once the data gets sent to a Chinese server, it’s gone. It’s like a void.

This sounds insanely xenophobic and racist.

Those “data collections analysis” can speculate, but they truly have no idea what happens with that data.

The one doing speculation is you. Analysis is not speculation. Maybe check a dictionary.

it’s demonstrable wrong to say that they collect less data.

I wouldn’t say

Facts or feelings. Choose one. You have not yet chosen facts.

ABC News does not provide the “cybersecurity report” they “obtained”. Usually this is a sign of Washington ordering news outlets to do their thing. Wired looks the same. And going by the video format of WSJ tabloid, it also has nothing of substance that technically breaks down things.

Fuck your entire lineage!!!

You pretend you are objective, while insinuating the motive of USA companies is solely to make money and advertise, while China is the big baddie “narrative” manipulator, which is some alternate reality bullshit. China is not the country that has done foreign interventions and/or genocides in 100+ countries. Or stuff like the genocide in Myanmar which Facebook facilitated, or the intentional misreporting Reuters did during Tiananmen Square to make it look like those CIA paycheck “democracy” students who burnt PLA soldiers alive first were good people.

I am tired of the unspoken Western Big Tech apologia. TikTok OBJECTIVELY collects far lesser data than Big Tech apps and services, according to reports from 2 reputed data collection analysis companies. Moreover, the below assumes you have an account, which is not even needed to use TikTok, unlike Instagram or Snapchat.

https://clario.co/blog/which-company-uses-most-data/ https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/insights/info-tech-companies-collecting-from-you

One of the key important aspects of threat modelling for your desired privacy is the acceptance of facts instead of false nationalist opinions.

Moreover, while TikTok collects basic data, it never forces you to login other than for commenting (for obvious reasons) and similarly personal things, unlike Instagram. If you open an IG link in web browser, you cannot replay the video second time, and if you scroll the account’s posted images and videos, you will not be able to flick through a second time.

Unlike Tiktok, with Western platforms and services like Facebook, you give phone number, contact book, IMEI, location data, email, some name or pseudonym et al. With TikTok, none, because you do not need an account for it.

Facebook/Instagram and major Western platforms’ data collection on a user is more than what TikTok does on a user, even if there is an account on both services. On top of this, TikTok does not have tracking pixels, ad networks, CDN and other methods of tracking on other websites, unlike Facebook ecosystem. This allows Facebook ecosystem to correlate, interlink and form data clusters on users and IP addresses. Remember how Facebook ecosystem disallows accountless access? Or how they C&D’d Barinsta developer Austin Huang, citing they dislike anonymous access to Instagram?

Western platforms also inject malware in browser using domains like https://netseer-ipaddr-assoc.xy.fbcdn.net/, something TikTok does not do if you do not have an account.

This is precisely what makes TikTok objectively so harmless without an account, and even with an account, relatively far less harmful. It does not mean TikTok does not collect data, but the difference is too wide. These are the facts, free of American nationalist propaganda.

I do not even use TikTok.

I agree, fuck you too. Because everyone is shitty. See, I can play the same game as you.

I think you are speaking to yourself here, considering you are accusing me of the things you are doing.

every idiot jumping on the dogpile

every single China fan

You have a funny theme going on.

I use a throwaway with a throwaway email. No regrets. I planned it that way. Keep tracking me, Spotify, you have absolutely nothing to give to NSA.

Like unfettered access to your device, regardless of permissions granted, and remote code execution capabilities kind of terrifying.

You realise you need to provide proof for Android sandbox bypassing, right? Or are you just going to be a racist liar?

1. TikTok, regardless of the country of origin, is known to be spyware on a much greater level than everything else on this list. It collects every click, interaction, and even your clipboard, among other things, sometimes while not using the app.

Can you provide concrete proof that this is the case, when compared to other Western social media platforms? You sound like a scientologist.

I would argue it is xenophobia and dishonesty rather than a misunderstanding.

trying to manufacture dissent and influence the public narrative

Damn, was Noah Chomsky talking about China in his masterclass documentary?

China does not even spy a hundredth of what USA does. Since Anglos love to quantify everything, it might be a good idea to quantify spying too. 160 GB sounds like nothing to me compared to millions of TBs in Utah datacenters. By your logic, one person who killed one person, and one person who committed a murder of 10000s of people, are equally guilty.

Looks like there is no concrete basis for threat modelling. Xenophobic biases, everywhere!

Communist Control Act? Sounds like First Amendment to me.

Anglo manchilds and womanchilds after unironically bullshitting this:

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