Folks, win or lose, the aftermath of election day will be a shitshow. I’ve written up a guide for how to survive Election Day 2024. The TL;DR: form is prepare for a hurricane or blizzard, with a nod to crazy people by preparing for self-defence, then be ready to hunker down. Election 2024 promises to be crazy, given how 2020 went down. Please look after yourselves!
You think you have a big gotcha here, but it was covered extensively when it happened. The google (or Bing in this case)(you don’t want us to do returns over 10 pages of results, including articles from:
Some of these sources wrote more than one article, with at least three by CNN and two by NPR.
You might think none of us know that Trump came close to assassination on 2024-09-15, but did you know that Trump didn’t tell his secret service detail he was going to the golf course, so they didn’t do a perimeter sweep before he got out there? They only found the shooter because Trump was finishing up one hole and they rushed to the next and spotted the would-be assassin.
Well, Trump has already killed millions of people with his stupidity. What’s a few more?
Definitely seems like the media, bought up by very conservative old men, has a favourite in the election. Not sure if they’re pushing the narrative that Trump is surging to depress Democratic Party vote or motivate us to not get complacent.
Need 🤣 reaction. So ⬆ instead.
This might surprise some people, but I actually agree with this. I’d love to take a risk on a Green or Socialist or even Libertarian candidate without risking throwing my vote away to the Republican. I’d still not do it with Presidents (the Electoral College fucks you over there), but I’m voting for RCV this November and look forward to eventually being able to not just vote for the lesser evil, nor have to vote for the crook because the other option in that election is a literal fascist…
I think these guys would leave the Dems unranked. I suspect they’d even rank Republicans over them, with the amount of “hate Dems” they got going.
Americans as a whole are dumb. Expecting them to use RCV like it should be used is like expecting a pigeon to play chess. We know what actually happens when you try to play chess with a pigeon.
Yeah, Picard Principle at play here. You can commit no mistakes and still lose. I can argue that there are a few things that Harris could do better. Americans are stupid and cruel as a whole…you tact too hard to the Left, you piss off the moderate voters and they stay home, vote Third Party, or worse, vote Trump, and if you tact too hard to the Right, you piss off liberal voters, and while they are less likely to vote Trump, you still lose their votes.
Man, we shouldn’t even be having this conversation at all. Trump is a convicted felon. He should be in jail right now, getting ready for the next trials.
Are you saying it ain’t illegal if the cops don’t catch you doing it? 🤣
Definitely. I tried to keep the scenario simple to make it easy to understand, but there is truth in the statement that the jocks have some fingers on the scale of Democracy. I suspect there’s more nerds than jocks. We just have to make sure they all turn out to vote because the cheerleader that is the jock’s politician is pulling out ALL the dirty tricks.
Yeah, also, Conservatives are more ‘fall in line’ voters, so there’s less vote splitting on the Right than on the Left. Libertarians do appeal to the people opposed to both eyes in the boardroom and eyes in the bedroom on both the Left and the Right, but for the most part, the GQP follows the ‘Vote for the Conservative in the Primary and the Republican in the General’ more than we follow its inverse (replace Conservative with Liberal and Republican with Democrat). And for Republicans afraid of a Trump presidency, come join us and vote for Harris. Then maybe go work on de-Trumping your party after they lose with you helping us. ;)
This is what I keep saying. It’s like my scenario with the Class President. A Nerd and a Jock are running. 51 kids are nerds and don’t want the Jock. 49 kids are jocks and don’t want the Nerd. Pretty clear that the Nerd wins, because more people don’t want the Jock than the Nerd, right? Wrong. If the Jock can peel just THREE votes off from the nerd coalition, the Jocks win it and D&D night is cancelled.
Now re-read that and replace nerds with Liberals, jocks with Conservatives, and ‘D&D night is cancelled’ with ‘Project 2025 is shoved down our throats.’ Then…vote with your fucking head and not your fucking heart!
I get where you’re coming from here, but … let’s be clear.
Come January, one of two people will be taking the Oath of Office.
The article explains why it’s best for you to vote for the person you dislike the least (if you can’t say ‘like the most’) out of those two.
None of the other candidates for President have any realistic shot at POTUS.
In fact, many of them are mathematically eliminated from a shot at POTUS by virtue of them not being able to secure 270 EVs because they are not on the ballot in enough states. Most of them can’t even get 100EV, let alone 270.
Apart from RFK Jr, Chase Oliver, and Jill Stein, none of them appear as a pickable option in enough states to have a shot at winning 270 EVs and will require Write-In Campaigns.
RFK Jr., Chase Oliver, and Jill Stein COMBINED represent less than 10% (largest vote share I have seen in the past month is Outward Intelligence, which had Kennedy at 3%, West at 1%, Oliver at 1%, and Stein at 1%, taken between 22 and 26 Sept of 1735 Likely Voters, while most other polls show Third Parties between 2% and 5%). Harris is between 45% and 50% in many of these polls, which means…well, Harris has MUCH more of a shot of winning than any of the Third Party candidates, let alone any one of them.
The fix for this is to get your Greens and Socialists and Liberals and Progressives running for local offices, and pushing and pushing hard for RCV. I can’t vote for your favourite candidate now because I don’t want Republicans in office, but if RCV passes this November, I’ll be far more open to it. In fact, I’ll take a risk on a Green or Progressive or Libertarian alternative to my Senator or Representative because I can vote that person 1, and make sure the Dem is ranked over the GQPer, so my vote becomes a Dem long before a Republican can win. Then work on getting the EC torn down. And I think you should to. I won’t tell you you MUST. But I won’t shy away from saying that if you want a progressive future, letting Harris lose now is a stupid way to try (and fail) to achieve that.
Yeah. It has been that way since the founding of the country. The winner not only must have the most votes, they must get half of the available EVs, rounding up. This was learned early on in the history of the US, when four Democratic-Republicans ran for President, and nobody got the required number of votes. This happened in 1824, barely half a century after the US was founded. It resulted in Andrew Jackson (Trump’s role model, BTW), getting 99 EVs, John Q. Adams winning 84 EVs, William H. Crawford (who had a stroke) winning 41 EVs, and Henry Clay winning 37 EVs. Per the 12th Amendment of the US constitution, nobody had a straight majority here, so the top three vote getters (disqualifying Henry Clay) advanced to the House of Representatives. Clay’s supporters in Congress threw their weight behind John Q. Adams, giving him a straight majority over the top candidate, Andrew Jackson, and Adams gave Clay a spot in his cabinet. Capping this shitstorm off was Andrew “Sore Loser” Jackson throwing a fit, calling it a ‘corrupt bargain’, in a very Trumpian temper tantrum.
IMO, what happened in 1828 (and again in 1837 with the VP) is an important history lesson for voters thinking of voting Third Party. Unless you can somehow convince 50% + 1 people to pick your Third Party candidate in 270 EV worth of states, your best bet is to get that candidate to run for a local election and become a vocal proponent for fixing the US electoral system. Because you’d hate to have 269 EV go for Harris, 81 go to a mix of Left-Wing Third Party candidates, and 188 go to Trump, then have the election thrown to the House, where the Trumpian states give Trump the win despite the Left-wing candidates winning in a landslide were those EVs have gone to a single person. And even that’s an unrealistic scenario. Only two people who have not had an R or D behind their name have gotten EVs in my lifetime, and both of them were from faithless electors, NOT from winning an EV. You’re not going to win the Presidency with 1% of the vote. But you WILL throw your state over to the bad guy if your 1% share makes the difference between Harris winning and Trump winning.
There are a lot of reasons why you shoulnd’t vote for third party for US Presidential Elections. The EC is just one of them.
The :3 was me trying to convey cat-like mirth and humour. ;3 But thanks for letting me know how you managed to get this user to shut up.
This. 100% this. If you want progress, you have to stop and look at who will be in office in January. Donald Trump…or Kamala Harris. No other names will take that Oath of Office, and this was set back all the way in July. If you wanted Progressive McProgressivestein in office, that person needed to be ran in the Primaries for the Democratic Party in July, which meant that candidate needed to be introduced to people long before then, as early as January 2020. And if your idea candidate didn’t win the Primaries, that means you couldn’t convince enough Democrats to vote for your candidate, and if you can’t convince Democrats to vote your guy or gal, how can you convince enough AMERICANS?
Not to mention you can’t even go back and see what the people really voted. If someone sneaks a
if (vote == KamalaHarris.vote)
{
DateTime currentTime = DateTime.Now;
If (currentTime.Seconds % 3 = 0)
DonaldTrump.voteCount += 3;
else
KamalaHarris.voteCount += 1;
}
into closed source code, you’ve got fuckery that will take a computer scientist to find, and no way to unfuck the election.
I prefer my paper ballot, thank you, though I’ll allow it to be scanned by a computer, as long as the computer is checked for fuckery like the above first.
One more absolutely not.
Let’s follow two votes. Vote #1 was cast in Colorado.
Vote 2 was cast in Louisiana.
I’m going to fight hard for my system, buddy. You can keep your internet voting.
Pretty much…
This poster thinks I didn’t know. But how can it know that. I just pointed out that there were literally hundreds of articles, then correctly cited the date. It’s not making the point it thinks it’s making. The media covered both idiots that took the pot shots at the Trumpster Fire. To the tune of hundreds of articles.