its not like Netanyahu is the only genocidal maniac in Iraeli government, either.

do you have downvotes hidden somehow? nearly all comments critical of Israel get at least some downvotes. usuallly around five. for example: there’s not a comment here that doesn’t have at least one downvote

Yeah, which is why this shit is still going on. Hamas would be extremely naive to think a temporary ceasefire is anything more than a promise to start bombing again later after they’ve refreshed their troops and stockpiled more weapons.

Their interests seem pretty aligned on the issue of stopping the genocide. I don’t know what other interests you think they have that conflict with the well being of Palestinians but I doubt they’re even in the same ballpark as that extremely pressing, immediate issue.

Have you learned nothing from the “war on terror”? You can’t kill a distributed, loosely connected, highly entrenched resistance by bombing it away. If America couldn’t manage it in Iraq, what makes you think America Jr. is gonna pull it off? Shoving Palestinians off their land is the goal here, not killing Hamas.

Also fuck you for calling Egypt enclosing an undeveloped patch of desert with a wall a “refugee camp”. Clown.

There has, to my knowledge, not been a single first-hand account of a woman saying “I was raped by Hamas”. All of it is based on anonymous eye witnesses, dead bodies Israel assures us were raped, or doctors speaking on behalf of returned hostages they refuse to name and have yet to come forward.

For as much rape as supposedly went on it sure is strange that there aren’t at least a few victims speaking of their experiences, if only just to confirm it happened. I’m happy to believe women when there are women to believe.

Egypt is essentially preparing a concentration camp in Sinai to house refugees from a seemingly inevitable Rafah campaign. I have some doubts about how well they’re advocating for Palestine’s interests.

Not to mention Israel doesn’t exactly have a stellar record when it comes to respecting ceasefires.

Hamas has repeatedly rejected any kind of temporary ceasefire. I can’t see why this would be any different.

Was Hamas even involved in the drafting of this deal or did the US and Israel just throw this together to paint Hamas as unreasonable when they reject it again? None of the articles I’ve read have made any effort to clarify who drew this up beyond vaguely gesturing at Israel, US, and Egypt.

They were asking for a permanent ceasefire though, right? This one seems pretty temporary.

My dude I’m not arriving at any conclusion about what specifically happened. I saying even the most favorable interpretation toward Israel is damning. It doesn’t matter when or how they shot into the crowd, the only reason a starving crowd on the edge of panic existed in the first place is because Israel created it. That, for me, is enough to lay all the deaths at their feet regardless of whether they were shot, trampled, or run over.

If you’re concerned that I might be taking Israel at their word for some reason, let me assure you: I do not buy their version of events for even a second.

I don’t care if it works or not I still want them to do it. I will take futile benevolence over callous apathy any day.

On the off chance that they do have some shred of real power, I would prefer they use it to try and end the genocide, rather than ignore it.

Lie about what? Nothing in the article contradicts what I’ve said. Even if you buy the bit about Israel firing “warning shots” after the panic had already started, they still created this entire situation to begin with. They starved those people then tossed in some scraps and shot at them when they reacted pretty much exactly how any rational person would expect. It doesn’t fucking matter if most of the bodies don’t have IDF bullets lodged in them. They killed them all the same.

Are you suggesting that an anxious crowd devolving into a panic is improved by the addition of weapons fire?

could you explain to me how the anxious, starving crowd of people trying to reach aid “started” it?

If someone opens fire at people in a crowded building and causes a crowd crush that kills dozens of people, do you blame the crowd or the dude who started mowing people down? Israel murdered those people by creating that situation regardless of the precise circumstances of their deaths.

My bad. That’s what I get for trusting what google plastered at the top of the results page. With that number figured in, Biden is just 3x worse.

If you want to do this gross tragedy Olympics shit you should at least consider that there are around 600k people in Gaza and over 300 million in America.

To make this argument honestly, you should either normalize the numbers against population (spoiler Biden is about 10x worse this way) or compare all the deaths worldwide that could be traced to either one. I suggest you actually do neither of those.

Im sure everyone has heard this by now but its my favorite thing about them: Axolotls evolved from a salamander that mutated to stay in its juvenile form permanently. You can (but shouldn’t) induce metamorphosis in them chemically (or occasionally, environmentally) and they will transform into a vestigial adult form.

Accused by Israel whose evidence is confessions gained through interrogation, and screenshots of vaguely pro Palestine messages in an anonymous telegram people were using to coordinate aid efforts. Blatant insubstantial bullshit.