• zeroday@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I’ve got a story idea for a cyberpunk dystopia. Imagine a world almost identical to ours. In that world, some inventive person creates a darknet website that allows anonymous donations to put bounties on corporate executives. Now, this site’s creator wants to make sure their site isn’t misused, so they implement guardrails like “Targets would be required to have over $10M in assets” and “each crypto wallet may contribute a maximum of $5 so it better reflects the will of the people.”

    Then, the site admin adds betting options like “who reaches a $1M bounty first”, over/under odds, betting on which target gets whacked first, etc, in order to draw traffic to the site. Maybe there’d also be a percentage of the bounty that’s paid out to organizations working to heal the damage caused by the target, so for example if a fossil-fuel exec gets whacked then that percentage goes to orgs working to stop fossil fuels.

    How do you think it’d play out in this story? Would the site properly incentivize people to shoot up boardrooms rather than schools?

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        It’d be fun to watch, it’d be engaging to the crowd, and it’d terrorize capitalists. Especially with real-time updates, imagine a CEO doing a press release and then having their bounty skyrocket as people hear the news.

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      So…black mirror bee episode, without the bees. Hated of the nation? Something like that.

      Only way schools start to see improvements is when it’s rich kids getting capped, forcing lawmakers to, you know, make laws.

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      There was a dark web site kinda like this (just a regular assassination market; not sure if it was real or a honey pot): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_market

      It’s also the reason prediction markets have been so heavily regulated (until recently), because they can easily incentivize assassinations while adding plausible deniability.

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      Miniature pineapples make for good ambassadors, but if you’ve seen Little Nicky you’d understand the merits of much larger ones.

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      It wasinvented to make executions more merciful as doing it “manually” came with many mishaps and iirc being the dude with the axe was not something many could stomach for long

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        We don’t actually want to kill billionaires.

        We joke about it because we want them to stop slowly killing us.

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        “THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.” - Mark Twain

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    I got banned from /c/news for “advocating” violence after making a joke about not being able to identify the suspect in the UnitedHealth CEO thread.

    Edit: Remember violence is reserved for the government to oppress people. You are supposed to just sit there and take it.

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    It’s not against the TOS. You can advocate for violence against the poor and minorities all day on here. But advocating for them to defend themselves is apparently over the line.

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      on here

      Do you think that all Lemmy is just your instance? What does “on here” mean in this context to you?

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        On the internet as a whole. We are allowed to celebrate and glorify violence against the poor and minorities. Not rich white people.

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          I’ve been on the Internet for decades and got my first bans after October 2023 trying to fight back against the insane islamaphobia and western chauvinism of the entire world (shitting in China, any Islamic nation, Russia etc when the west is morally as bad if not worse) I’m not even a Muslim, I just have the benefit of seeing the humans behind the religion (for all people of all religions tho not all sects are religions are equal)

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            They’re cracking down hard now. Got permabanned a month ago from Reddit, because I said I didn’t care if Trump called for Liz Cheney to be shot after she’s called for millions to be bombed. Again, not banned for encouraging or glorifying- just for saying I didn’t care.

            It’s not just threats of violence they’re going after now. They’re banning people for not supporting the right kinds of violence, or for supporting equal application of the law.

            And the apologist bots are escalating all over social media, too. They’re scared. They should be.

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      Notice how hard they’re going after the shooter? The NYPD is actually making an effort for once and the FBI is involved even though there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that this is a federal matter (has the shooter crossed state lines? Has the victim’s civil rights been violated?). We’ve always known that law enforcement is for them and not us but it’s pretty blatant.

      I’d say “you get what you pay for“ but the C suite doesn’t pay taxes.

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      I’ve noticed most communities have been overtaken by, at best, centrist mods. Most of whom have power issues, and ban for personal reasons. Looking at you JonsJava, jeffw.

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        Huh

        I say some wild shit and they just tell me to stop wilding

        Except for FlyingSquid, because he doesn’t want to admit Israel is using religion as an excuse for genocide for some weird reason.

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        I think it’s a lot of the same problem with every social media platform. There’s simply a lot of government agents and private partners that get into positions to moderate and control online speech platforms. It’s how they maintain their power. By controlling what we are allowed to talk about, which never includes speech that’s a threat to their position and power.

        Look at how many executives at Facebook are former IDF or CIA. Reddit admins used to have a blogpost up that their highest traffic source came from a government astroturfing farm at Eglin Air Force base. This isn’t a conspiracy. They’re very open about what they’re doing. They have so much control at this point, they no longer feel the need to operate covertly. They spend a great deal of time and money making sure they own the people who moderate the biggest communities, or the admins who can overrule them.

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      You can advocate for violence against the poor and minorities all day on here.

      Where? Seriously, where is this happening? I’m all over lemmy and any time I see a direct call for someone, anyone, else to die that comment is removed quickly and often the commenter is banned.

      So give me specific instances, prove your claim.

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          Of course I have but that’s not what you were referencing in the comment I replied too, nor was it what my reply was about.

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              They are not the same as a comment that I just read that says, and I quote, “Yes we’ve had first CEO assassination but how about a Second?”

              If you think they are the same then you are part of the problem.

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                no, you are. the quote you gave is infinitely less harmful than any advocacy for war or cops.

                wow, they called for a second murder? of the worst people on earth who contribute nothing to society but always do great harm? including auto-denying sick people to let them die or otherwise suffer?

                I can tolerate killing thousands of people, but I draw the line at 2 demons!

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                If you think they are the same then you are part of the problem

                No, you…

                (they aren’t the same, a state’s monopoly on violence, which they inflict on their own, and other, citizens with impunity, and which you are not only consenting to, but defending, is infinitely worse)

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                Calling for increased police and war budgets is calling for the deaths of thousands. You’re right- they’re not the same. The pro-war and pro-cop are far more violent.

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      Please don’t show up in our modlog. I know I speak for all of the Admins at lemmy.today when I say that we don’t want to get involved in this shit.

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        That’s just a miniature bunny with a regular-sized cigar cutter. Is tobacco paraphernalia against the TOS?

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          I get it, truly I do…just…keep it in bounds please. The instance you are using is self-funded and run by volunteers, please remember that.

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            What exactly are those bounds.

            Referencing is not advocating. Symbolism isn’t illegal.

            A picture of Jesus nailed the the cross is more extreme if you take them both literally.

            There are historical ways the people have protected themselves because they where pushed to having no other means to do so. Referencing the clear historical pattern is a modern alternative. Memes did not exist during the last revolution.

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      better to have a bun and not need it than need a bun and not have one!

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    don’t mind the foam around their mouths. they’re just happy to see you!

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    People say China represses free speech, but at least there they recognize the repression and have a rich lexicon of codewords to get around it already.

    The shaping of the western mind has been much more subtle and total that few even accept that it’s happened.

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      I guess you have to learn to be more subtle with your propaganda when you aren’t allowed to just disappear anyone you want at any moment and create concentration camps for religions you don’t like.

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      There’s plenty of codewords, slang and at this point even jargon about this sort of thing in use in the US. It’s just not widely shared, for obvious reasons.

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        It’s getting there. The whole “pranked with a bun until unalived, in Minecraft” thing is highly reminiscent of the mud-crab-horse or whatever the Chinese one was.