• humanspiral@lemmy.ca
    4·
    7 hours ago

    So many US empire simps here mistake opposition to their evil, and counterproductive diminishment of Americans and Europeans who simp for the empire, as supporting the Russian non-empire who needs to defend itself, and understands fully, despite any absurd propaganda to the contrary, that it needs to defend itself from US empire attempting to demonically diminish it.

    Your propaganda bubble means you cannot and will never have nice things, including any climate supporting human sustainability. Heads are so far empire ass, that advising you it stinks up there, only makes you understand it as an order to move to Russia.

    • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      110·
      2 days ago

      (in a similar vein)

      There is a third choice, where you say both are bad (ie. anarchists and pure marxists). But most people on lemmy.ML are Marxist Leninists (ML) who simp for authotarian states that call themselves socialist, like Russia, China, and North Korea.

        • L/nerd@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          35·
          2 days ago

          ain’t no fucking way this fella’s calling china and north korea resistance to the bourgeoisie and imperialism

        • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          44·
          2 days ago

          Pure Marxist, Classical Marxist, Orthodox Marixst, whetever you want to call people who follow Marxism without Leninst or other authoritarian leaning interpretations.

          They are the only countries who resist the western bourgeoisie imperial order

          By trying to create their own imperial order. Nazi Germany also resisted the western imperialist order by trying to create their own imperial order.

          Your point about Russia not even pretending to be socialist is very much true. Which makes it more baffling that some people on ML support it. Do they just support anything that isn’t western even if it’s arguably worse?

            • TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
              30·
              2 days ago

              Literally ignoring the slaughter of Uyghurs and Ukranians, never mind how China is essentially building up the hate speech against Japan and Taiwan within the populace through their state controlled social networks. Get back to us when you can criticize China in the same way. Same for Russia, extreme jail sentences are dished out for anyone who criticizes Putin. You are too much of a caricature, and exactly what the meme refers to.

              The USSR was a victim of trying to outimperial an imperialist power and going bankrupt, and now it’s an oligarchy with Putin at the top and any serious opposition dead and out the window / irradiated with polinium / poisoned by Novichok. China has literal execution vans driving around the country, has extended its secret police deep state overseas to intimidate Chinese who don’t play ball, and constantly rewrites its map to expand to land they want to claim as theirs. They are in border disputes with India, they are actively preparing to invade Taiwan, they have blockaded the island several times now, they have cooperated to cut undersea cables, have militarized fishing fleets that migrate world wide and bully local fishermen and exhaust the local stocks. And all you have is that raging desire to whatabout “b-b-but the US does it / does worse!” right about now and a whole bunch of rhetoric that makes you a puppet of it.

              Russia is where it is at because it has chosen this road. Before Putin tried to use the myth of restablishing USSR to enlarge the rule of his oligarchy, it was well on its way to being quite influential in Europe, so much so that it was a major partner of Germany. Russia chose conquest and sides with dictators who exploit their people. It’s telling that the US is at its worst when it has the people who collude closest with Russia.

            • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              29·
              2 days ago

              Interesting that the only examples of Marxist countries followed the Leninist model

              Perhaps because in China, Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam, anarcho-communists and anti-authoritarian marxsist fought the revolution alongside more authoritarian branches in “left unity” but were later brutally murdered by the authoritarian branches.

              socialist world order

              I’m not okay with a world order supported by countries like China and North Korea, pretending to be “socialist” while having murdered anarchists, LGBT people, people with disabilities and ethnic minorities.

  • lugal@sopuli.xyz
    38·
    2 days ago

    Stalin says to Kropotkin: “The difference between us is that you’re an aristocrat while I’m from the working class.”
    Kropotkin answer: “True, but we also have something in common: We are both class traitors.”

  • regdog@lemmy.world
    27·
    2 days ago

    Every time this gets reposted I need to point out that it is spelled: “You are not an anti-imperialist”

    English is stupid.

    • fosho@lemmy.caEnglish
      4·
      1 day ago

      but neither are necessary. someone could just be anti imperialist.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
      10·
      2 days ago

      French:

      A beautiful man:

      Un <= masculin (A)

      Homme <= masculin (Man)

      So the adjective should be masculine, right?

      But as homme 1) starts with a H and the word does not have nordic descent, it’s not the masculine ‘beaux’ but feminine :

      Un bel homme.

      But not belle eh, just bel (they obviously sound exactly the same).

      Because, it sounds better.

      Which language was stupid now again?

      It’s crazy humanity can communicate at all.

  • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
    18·
    2 days ago

    Simping for any government leadership is just gross. These people don’t actually care about protecting the working class; they just want power, money, and recognition. As soon as you put a human into that role, they corrupt in one way or another. It’s why I clarify that I support the struggling working class under any ruler. The fight is always about them and ensuring they have human rights and a right to self-determination.

    Every person I’ve met in my lifetime that lived under communism had nothing good to say about it, and they were all working class. Some pasty white dudes in America don’t know shit about that and never will. They get into a fantasy loop because living under capitalism fucking sucks, and dreaming about something perceived as better is understandable.

    I recommend people read Marx and keep trying to unite the working class. Take the good pieces and stop idolizing people. As soon as you idolize a person, you are incapable of being able to identify when they do or say something terrible.