Things didn’t end well for the last guy…

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        A fetus is objectively not fully formed. What do you think its doing in the womb for all those months, just hanging out? When abortions happen its just a bundle of cells that cant think, breathe, or live on its own.

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            Cancer

            Cancer is a bunch of cells. By your logic it is immoral to treat cancer. Cancer has human DNA. Cancer can also live independent of the human that spawned it.

            We should stop killing cancer too.

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            A coma involves brain activity in a highly developed nervous system, often with a high chance of recovery.

            A fetus has a tiny, undeveloped nervous system, with no higher brain functions.

            These are not at all equivalent. One is a person, and the other is not.

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        Then how come they can’t survive without leeching off a host? 80% of pregnancies spontaneously end in miscarriage. That doesn’t sound viable or fully developed to me. If it could survive outside the womb, you’d have a point. But it can’t, so you don’t.

        You know who was actually fully-developed? All the women who have died due to pregnancy complications thanks to draconic laws that take away their rights over their own bodies. I’ll hold you responsible for murdering them.

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          You clearly don’t know biology do you & are you capable of sustaining yourself I you were left in a jungle ? BTW, it’s around 13.5 percent but regardless it’s not 80% (that’s a lie)

          • American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. (2020)
          • National Center for Health Statistics. (1999). Trends in Pregnancies and Pregnancy Rates.
          • JAMA Network. (2020)

          I hold you responsible for the billions of deaths of unborn children, because of your stupidity & selfishness & inhumanity

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            BTW, it’s around 13.5 percent but regardless it’s not 80% (that’s a lie)

            Sure, if you only measure after 6 weeks.

            For women of reproductive age, losses between implantation and clinical recognition are approximately 10–25%. Loss from implantation to birth is approximately one third [39, 46, 48, 49].

            A recent re-analysis [39] of data from three studies [46, 48, 49] concluded that, in normal healthy women, 10–40% is a plausible range for pre-implantation embryo loss and overall pregnancy loss from fertilisation to birth is approximately 40–60%.

            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5443340/

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            You clearly don’t know biology do you

            Says the person claiming a fetus is a fully developed human.

            are you capable of sustaining yourself I you were left in a jungle ?

            Millions of people live in the jungles of the world. How many fetuses live outside wombs? Oh right, none. Because there’s a difference between having the skills to survive in the jungle, and being a fully developed human capable of independent biological survival.

            Have you ensured that every single one of your gametes resulted in a child? Then you’re a genocidal hypocrite.

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        No. A fully developed human would be post-pubescent. Until then you are either a fetus incapable of living outside your mother’s body, or a baby capable of independent life with some sort of care.

        Fetuses are NOT babies. Stop being obtuse.