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From my time on Lemmy. There seems to be a lot of American propaganda on here from people.
I see a lot of Chinese propaganda as well
And Russian and North Korea for some reason
The amount of people here who will try to convince you that NK is some sort of paradise here is insane.
NK is some sort of paradise
The bar for “paradise” is so low. Just living in a country where you don’t have chronic homelessness, endless war, and rampant medical bankruptcy seems to qualify.
This is exactly the shit I was talking about.
North Korea has been in a war since it was created.
They’ve had a cessation of hostilities since 1953.
The Panmunjom Declaration, signed in 2018 by Kim Jung Un and Moon Jae-in even began the process of reunification.
If only every war was this peaceful.
The DPRK later called off talks with South Korea scheduled for 16 May, blaming U.S.–South Korean military exercises…
From your source.
Do you think actual sponsored accounts/bots or just indoctrinated people?
Both, but there was definitely blatant astroturfing after Biden withdrew and Kamala became the nominee.
I think we just have a surprising amount of political staffers in Lemmy. The bulk does seem to be wealthy people living in suburbs. Look at how the biggest groups are people self hosting thousands and thousands of dollars of equipment.
Surprising amount of political staffers… As if that is a class of people. Those people are normies and not tech savvy. They’re all workaholics too so most of them probably only used LinkedIn for social media.
Your idea that people who self-host somehow equals political staffers is just asinine. There’s literally no overlap.
i really doubt any major organizations are paying for bots, at least not on lemmy. we’re just not big enough methinks
if there are any it’s probably a smaller operation done by a few people max.Meth inks?
the methamphetamine epidemic has hit the squid population hard
yeah but there’s tankies too, so it cancels out
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Dude. The Russian propaganda flows freely around here.
You don’t have to interact with .ml instances, you know?
If you think it’s contained within one instance then you are the exact type of mark they are after.
Pushing anti-Russia propaganda? Clearly a Democrat shill.
Dont worry, if you put propoganda of opposite polarity together they cancel eachother out. /s
No no no. Propaganda is inherently Russian.
I mean, freedom means all propaganda is welcome, so that should cancel out, right? Right?
does Fediverse have a short form video content platform? cuz that’s what people really care about these days
(also side note, we all really should avoid or limit short form video content consumption…)
I believe Pixelfed Loops is the only one currently, it’s actually not half bad, apart from how barebones and stuttery the app is, which isn’t a big deal since the issues are only occasional.
I haven’t checked it out yet but “loops” is supposed to be that
I don’t understand it at all. I find it infuriating. I need long videos to play in the background while I work. I can’t get anything done with this short crap. Maybe that’s the point…
Short-form videos, like many things in modern society (e.g. many video games) are essentially just a Skinner Box. You scroll, watch the video, get a hit of pleasure, and then the video automatically replays. That cues you to scroll. Repeat. It’s easy to get stuck in that loop, especially if you already are struggling with executive dysfunction and can’t find motivation/pleasure in ordinary activities.
I guess I just don’t get the hit of pleasure from it. I feel like I’m just getting into whatever it is and then it blue-balls me.
I mean, that’s just two different purposes of two different formats.
Short form content is not made to be played in the background while you work, nor is it made for intricate and detailed analysis or essays. It’s made to have something occupy your mind during short breaks like toilet or smoke break or while waiting for the bus or something.
Long and short form content don’t compete but compliment with each other. If you don’t like one or the other, that’s totally fine, then you’re just not part of the target audience.
We should form our own propaganda. Not as a counterpoint, but as part of a wider fediverse identity.
But to successfully do this without being grouped together with one of the more mainstream platforms, it will have to be one so far removed from established axis’ of alignments:
- Impossible to place on left vs right.
- Impossible to compared with authoritarianism vs democracy
- Cannot be tied to a specific geopolitical agenda
- cannot align with a specific country’s interests
How about this: “Sasquatch did 9/11 to distract us from the fact that Big Farming puts nutrients in our food, and the Dutch lgbtq communities are the only one who can save us”
Impossible to place on left vs right
Not possible unfortunately 😅
What you’ve come up with there would be considered “left wing” 😂
Ok, let’s add some war hawking in there: A pro-colonialist stance in regards to invading Bouvet island.
Who’d want that place, I read that weird birds will steal your fish & chips there.
lol the British flag in the bottom right
After Brexit they just wanted to be part of something… anything.
Sorry, but I cannot abide the Dutch
I believe in viewing as much propaganda as possible, because it helps you better see and understand it. No country is acting in our self-interest as a species right now. It is interesting what different people are allowed to say/not say on different apps. (My goal for this year is to learn enough Turkish to get on the Turkish web and better understand the weird cult that doesn’t get along with Erdoğan - they run lots of charter schools in the US for some reason.)
The fediverse is nice, but is never going to be mainstream. It’s not designed to be addicting, because that isn’t its purpose. Maybe it is for the best to have these small holdouts where you can have something analogous to the early internet - where saying “suicide” or “kill” or talking about sensitive topics doesn’t mean your post will never be seen. These small spaces won’t be bought and destroyed.
Linux propaganda 😎👉
Yes and no, you still have admins here, just like on Reddit, you can get locked out of interacting with thousands of people at the whim of your instance’s admin and the only recourse you’ll have is to join another one instead…
“The only recourse you’ll have” is the whole point. You have no recourse on Reddit. There is no other Reddit server. There are many Lemmy servers, all over the world, with very different views and policies.
And you’re just jumping from one instance to another with admins that can censor you again and again. You create your own instance and other instances’ admins can censor you by defederating from your own instance.
Just out of curiosity, what’s your solution?
(Putting aside that what you describe is still far more room for ban evasion than non-fediverse platforms.)
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/16065977
Basically, decentralize the back-end independently of the front-end, eliminate admins altogether, mods still exist but they only have power on their communities, they don’t have site wide power.
That wouldn’t work that well, especially when you take law into regard. For example, the european Digital Services Act regulates platforms and platforms have to respond to obligations, sometimes deleting content. Communities are not platforms, instances are. Ergo, you need instance admins be able to comply and respond to the DSA.
The server owners would take care of the content hosted on their server and would need to filter it based on their local laws (to remove CSAM for example, just like current admins need to do), but otherwise this type of decentralization would make the website pretty much a neutral zone that operates outside of specific laws since the people hosting the content (and its backups) could be located all over the world.
How’s that different from now?
Or do you want users to not be banned instancewide for breaking instance rules? Or do you want to abolish instance/server rules aside from local laws altogether?
That’s pretty big recourse though.
We got https://loops.video/ right?
The UX here needs to drastically improve for more people to see it as an viable alternative.
I use Sync for mobile app and Photon for a web interface. But I think most people are not okay with having to search for these options.
Exactly that yes, it took me a while to find Photon, and I’m someone that’s passionate about tech and works in tech.
Your average new user is going to give up long before that and never use the site again.
It’s also confusing to pick which instance to start with (users need to be guided more)
About the instance choice, I believe it’s easier to get used to since people use e-mail and Mastodon is already quite popular.
I mean, the web UI looks clean enough for me. 🤷♂️
For you yes, I’m also okay with it. Bit it’s not great as smooth and nice as what the vast majority of people are used to
Fediverse: extremely USA-centric, extremely left and queer. Dissent is punished as hard as posting Winnie Pooh on TikTok.
Downvotes hurt, I get it. But remember, it’s only an attempt to remind you you’re an asshole. It’s up to you whether you believe them or not.
Meh, you’re just building an echo chamber. Everyone around is of the same opinion, everything against is downvoted to hell, sometimes bans are handed out.
And you are starting to believe you’re normal and you’re keeping your space clean of all the “assholes”. But instead you’re just way too far up your own ass most of the time.
Your downvotes don’t hurt. It’s just sad that this ambitious project that could’ve easily replaced reddit, turned into a circle-jerk. The content and opinion-diversity on everything that’s reachable from my current instance is approximately /r/antiwork. I could just go back and spend all my days browsing that one sub without any loss. But such pompous name “fediverse”.
You got nothing folks. Every community is about USA only and all the top posts are “trump bad”, “capitalism bad.” Like nothing else exists. You sabotaged yourselves. There’s no fediverse. There are 20-40k people chanting together “fuck trump, fuck musk, fuck capitalism”. On every instance, in every thread, on every topic.
And you know what, I agree with all three. But even to me you look pathetic. And as my multiple tests confirm, you do not accept any disagreement, and you cannot brin any rational argument to the table, you can only echo.
Almost every other Reddit alternative has been taken over by nazis. You’ve got plenty of space dude. Just fuck off. I’m sure there’s even a fascist lemmy instance you can find instead of here whining because you can’t spread hate. Shit, just go join X.
exploding heads once existed, but they have such low users that just shut down lmfao
How does that work here anyway? Is there a FAQ or something to explain? Do downvoted comments get hidden or pushed down?
Not as far as I can tell. It’s really just an indicator “some people thought your comment was dogshit”. Whether you take it seriously is up to you.
But it’s not usually the people running the platform doing that. You can also find instances that go full on 4chan style freeze peach and only delete explicitly illegal stuff, but most of those are probably defederated from the big instances by now.
Imagine wanting to exist without automatic persecution and being told you are “extremely left”
Lmfao eat shit bitch ♥️
Centrists are nazis these days 😅
We already have American censorship on the top ones, which will get worse once Project 2025 is enacted…
Fediverse more censored than Reddit ever was.
there’s the door
Get off .world before claiming that lol
.world is not the problem, this particular user is.
They literally said “I hate the disabled”. I know that because I tagged them when I saw that. No it wasn’t out of context.
Other instances they may have just been full on banned for their behavior.
Can I get a link to that? Assuming it was recent enough to not be too much of a bother…
(I’m disabled myself and I’d love the opportunity to tear them apart)
I dont remember how long ago (maybe a few weeks?) And the tag is just a manual tag, so no link to that one. You’d have to check their post history, sorry.
For reference, this is my tag:
Just go to a different instance my dude.
♪ You give .world a bad name ♪
Is it though?
Check their modlogs lmao
TLDR: Transphobia
Not only transphobia. Also ableism and generally being an asshole. Breaking any given ”be civil“ rule in any given community.
https://old.lemmy.world/comment/14402980
Would someone transphobic write this?
You weirdo perpetually online Lemmy users always jump to the transphobic conclusion. I’ve been labeled that even though I’m not so many times it’s not even funny any longer. But you pull some reddit-tier shit and judge someone based on some cherry-picked history; and then have the balls to tell me to go back to Reddit while exhibiting that same behavior. Hilarious!
Which logs? There are multiple communities on .world
Just any modlog site, then filter for the user (and ”removing comments“ if you like). For example: https://feddit.org/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveComment&userId=2113
To me, it looks like they go to communities, rage against the community’s topic, break any civility rule and cry ”censor“ when the inevitable deletions and bans fly in.
But my FrEeDoM oF sPeEcH!!!
Reddit-tier behavior right here. Because you’re just looking at the mod log and attributing every thing ever modded to my entire history of posts. I participate in lots of communities, and a majority of my stuff isn’t ever modded or deleted.
And it’s actually worse over here, because instance admins have access to the history of your up/downvotes, so they can dive even DEEPER and have been caught doing that exact thing.
But way to miss the point - and then go even deeper in proving the point I was making; and being a great example of that point.
But way to miss the point
Lmao. Talking some irony here. The point was not to analyze all your comments and behavior. The modlog shows you’re not being censored, you’re just experiencing consequences of breaking community and server rules.
gb2 reddit
Avoid .world .ml and grad and you should be good
Sigh. And this is exactly why I said people need to learn how these protocols work.
Crossposted to !fedimemes@feddit.uk
For the average consumer it just isn’t the same without being screwed by big companies.
