YEAH, SEND THEM BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!!!
Oh that country does not want them? Time for the USA to force them like Columbia!
Would be funny of by this way the American natives found a loophole to recover the lands stolen from their ancestors.
Yes, apply 100% tariffs on all American goods sold in America, until they accept them!
I kept saying this would happen. Citizens will be detained and eventually probably deported. Because Trump literally believes that people can just have their citizenship taken away from them on a whim.
Yep, me too all because they were brown. Racism was always the point of Trump deportation stick. And fucking mega base is loving it. We can thank those who set at the election and the never Harris crowd for now all stuck in this hellhole. Except for FlyingSquid who luckily was able to escape. But fucking people had just voted he would had to escape which probably wasn’t easy.
It is not easy, but it is something I was lucky to be able to do. Right now, no job, my savings are running out, my wife (a librarian, risking imprisonment) is still stuck in the U.S., and if I don’t find anything in a couple of months, what I do have saved up will be gone and I don’t know what we’ll do.
But yeah, a lot of people will be worse off than us and I’m sorry.
Are you a dual citizen? Otherwise, you would have needed a job, no?
I am a dual citizen. Which means I can legally live in the UK.
If I don’t get a job paying at least £29,000 a year, I can’t get a family visa. My daughter can legally stay here for six months without one, but not get any public healthcare. This has already been a problem. No doctor was available on time and she ran out of one of her pills and FedEx refused to ship it on time and now she had to quit it cold turkey and is feeling the effects. Thankfully, I can step her back up again when the pills arrive today.
Sorry to hear about your family troubles - hope it’s sorted soon. Shouldn’t your daughter be eligible for citizenship by descent, since you’re one? At least here in Portugal that is the case.
Unfortunately, no. She is eligible for permanent residency, but only if I make over the income threshold of £29,000 a year.
Huh. Interesting. I thought a child automatically inherits the citizenships of their parent a birth. Weird.
As another librarian, it’s fucking terrifying work these days. We are beloved by the people but a giant target for this administration. I loved this work for decades but I’m about to flee for industry because I’m exhausted. We’re also not super portable, library jobs are hard to come by and those outside the US are hot right now.
I’m sorry too that you had to flee and go through your savings (which probably took lot time to even do) and start over in other country. I am trying to find work here in the states and having a hard time so I can’t imagine what your going through. I hope it works out for both of us. Good luck for both of us.
Thanks!
Just a friendly FYI, it’s Shtick or Schtick
It’s already happened in Arizona before. It’s why Joe Arpaio was convicted – contempt for continuing to profile and round up immigrants after a court told him to stop. Pardoned by Trump.
And even after all that and tent cities, he ran for office again. Didn’t win but the fact he was even allowed to try again is a major flaw in the system
Hey everyone! This person kept saying this would happen!
I mean why didn’t we just listen to this specific one commenter? They kept saying this would happen. As if no one else could have anticipated it.
When will we learn to listen to [random commenter].
Sir that is Mr Flying Squid. Hes kinda notorious around these parts.
Yeah, they were far from the only one.
Hundreds of people on Lemmy were saying it. Also it was common sense.
Just wait until you find out that Trump is a white supremacist who entertains Nazis at his home with private dinner parties.
I worry for a cousin of mine.
He’s Vietnamese and was adopted by my aunt and uncle about 15 years ago or so. By all accounts he’s now a U.S. citizen. He’s in college. Doing great.
But he IS brown. I’m pretty sure my uncle voted for trump for some dumbass reason. I worry my cousin could be caught up in some raid at some point.
I’m white and hang out with mostly white people who don’t understand how scary this is.
I ask them if they can prove to me - right now - that they’re a citizen. Lots of them legitimately think a Driver’s License is enough.
I explain that it is not proof of citizenship and that lots of people have licenses without being a citizen. So if they were brown, they might be arrested based on their lack of papers.
And once arrested and sent to a camp, your ability to produce any documentation you may have diminishes to almost nothing.
Demand your white friends show them their green card or birth certificate.
If you think that’s a joke, ask around. I’ve been asked that twice in my life. But because I’m not Default American™, I have to prove a lot harder that I was born here.
And if they do, tell them, “no, the long form birth certificate,” since that was demanded of Obama (and it still wasn’t enough).
Yup. Everyone is quick to forget how the US treated Irish, Italian, and Jewish people in past generations. There really is such a thing as “not white enough”, and when these jerks run out of people to pick on, that’s next.
Also, a bad agent can just get rid of your passport. So carry a photocopy, and let the lawyer your family gets show up with the real one in court.
Get a passport card. It’s valid ID, proves you’re a citizen, and doesn’t have your address on it so cops and the fascists from ICE don’t learn where you live. Keep the original passport somewhere secure, like you said
I have a pdf copy of my passport that I have loaded on my iPhone.
Yeah, but that doesn’t effect them, so why should they care?
/s, obviously.
My cousin and his wife adopted their son from Guatemala. Great kid, growing up to become an admirable adult. They’re right-wing Trump supporters in the state of Florida. I know they voted for this shit, and probably don’t conceive of the idea this could ever harm THEIR son. But all it takes is the fact that he doesn’t look American enough to some racist in a uniform for him to get snatched up in a sweep. Really hope he doesn’t face this kind of harassment, but now its become much more likely.
The accelerationist fucks can all get fucked. We told you spreading anti-democratic sentiment and allowing those doing so to lie on social media would lead to shit like this but no, we had to be told we love genocide and be otherwise dismissed. We were fucking right and any rational, un brainwashed person could see it.
Inb4 “oh you can’t allow any criticism of Democrats. Duopoly, fascist. GeNoCiDe bLuE mAgA blahhh”.
Yeah we all can and certainly should be unloading criticism on democrats but when you’re headed to a country-ending election you are an irresponsible idiot if you can’t do it with the caveat that it’s extremely important to vote against trump. We’re reaping what these idiots sowed and it probably will mostly hurt society’s most vulnerable.
Deleted what I had written in this comment. It’s just not worth it to invest energy going over this again. America is fucked and that especially includes people like me. The trans community is already facing widespread institutional violence like we never have before. Thanks to the rise of fascism. I wholeheartedly reject the need to blame a minority group for the problem and not those in power who actually ran on conservative pro-colonist ideology. This reality was arrived at with a Democrat in power. Electoralism doesn’t work.
I stand by what I said about accelerationists
They’ve moved on to “it’s not my fault I chose not to vote, the Democrats didn’t promise me a pony”.
They were saying this before the election, too: “Biden/Kamala are not perfect human beings, so I’m morally superior by not voting Democratic or voting for a useless third party! Look at meeeeee, I’m so very sparkly and special!”
Or worse, some of them even voted for donvict.
Oh they already got ahead on that – I read “the democrats platform sucks so no wonder [fascism isn’t a big deal]” kind of shit for months before the election
for example: https://lemmy.world/comment/14231344. That was almost a month ago now.
I’ve already seen “Trump is better than Biden, actually.” from ml.
I am still trying to get over “Trump is not as bad because all he is proposing is ethnic cleansing, which is not genocide.”
And you show them statistics about things like the Trail of Tears and how many people died and they don’t give a fuck.
Just like they don’t actually give a fuck about Palestinians. Palestinians are just pawns in their political games.
Is that a Vermin Supreme reference?
Send 'em back where they came from! Oh wait…
When mass deportations started under Hoover it was common that American citizens were swept up and sent to the Southern border of Mexico. Many of them were children who would only learn late in life that they were US citizens. This continued through Eisenhower’s presidency.
Yeah I’m a white dude and back when I had long hair and didn’t understand civil rights I got illegally detained dozens of times. Profiling is real, and obviously POC understand this. But also, police have no respect for the constitution or actual rule of law and civil rights. Most of my worst experiences were from police forces in cities mostly ran by authoritarian neolibs.
My few experiences with city cops have all been negative. Felt like they were baiting for a confrontation. I don’t really like any cops, but city cops are the worse.
The lowest paid, the quickest hired, usually not from the community, and not used to people being armed and giving resistance since cities tend to have stricter gun laws. Exercise your 2a.
JFC, I hate this place so much.
Can the tribal leaders round up The Mayflower Society and deport them?
This is a feature, not a bug. They will get sent to camps.
Most Navajo aren’t even that dark-skinned. This is purely just abusing the indigenous because they can.
Because of course
Well, well, well, if it isn’t the mask coming off. You’re brown, you’re out. I’m shocked.
“They are non-white. Put them on the next plane to Mexico or Colombo or wherever, and let them sort this out.”
An then just clean out the place? Trump is good at cleaning
Remember how he had minorities in his show? I would check out those people… See if there’s sheep in Wolf’s clothing or vise versa.
Where are they going to deport them? The past, before the white man came?
As much ignorance and ill will there is behind this process, I’d guess Mexico.
Why would they deport a slave labor force?
What, you mean the racist people aren’t doing a great job verifying which brown people they are supposed to be looking for, and are just grabbing anyone? Shocking…well not that shocking.
Where are they going to deport them?
Wherever they can
A shallow grave- or wherever they’re gonna deport queer folk to, too.
FEMA camps after they rebuild them to their liking.
