• FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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    I’m not a fan of the Green Party, either. Among other things, they gave us Senator Sinema.

    But if leftists want to demonstrate that they are better than establishment Dems at winning elections, then leftists will have to win elections. Starting with primaries.

    And yes, others will try to “tear them down” from all sides. Intraparty fighting never ends, even after winning an election. Just ask Joe Biden. That’s the nature of politics, which leftists often don’t want to face.

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      What if I told you, that elections are a way for the ruling class to justify the oppression of the working class?

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        Then I would conclude that you are not interested in winning elections.

        And therefore you shouldn’t give advice to people who do want to win elections.

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          Hey man, I want our Empire to crumble, not prolong it’s life.

          While crumbling, I want to limit damage as best as possible.

          The Dems are the ones who care about winning elections, and holding power. The only way to do that is to listen to the working class.

          Trump lied about his intent to fix the problems, but he did, minimally, agree they existed.

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            I don’t believe leftists actually know “the only way to win elections and hold power”, considering they have accomplished neither.

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              Probably because neither is our goal? I mean, leftists want no state, no classes, and no money.

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                Democrats definitely don’t want a stateless society. So they definitely should not listen to leftists.

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                  In which case, I cannot argue with. Which means the Democrats most certainly do not support the interests of the working class, and just want power over others. Which means, none of us should be voting for them, or the GOP.