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    OMG here we go again.

    In most democracies, there are election poll watchers from the major parties, and also independent poll watchers to observe and make sure no shenanigans are going on. The Democratic and independent poll watchers would’ve reported any election irregularities. I not seeing widespread reports of such.

    States run elections, even safe blue states shifted 10+ percentanage more red.

    So my conclusion: The vote count itself is probably legit.

    The real “rigging” was done via unlimited political spending legalized by the Citizens United ruling to unfairly buy propaganda spreading lies. That, exacerbated by inflasion, voter apathy, democratic party incompetence, voter roll purges, and most important of all: Human Stupidity. And this timeline is the result.

    Think about all those people getting scammed all the time. You see those stories and be like “OMG how can they be so stupid”. Well this is the same, but with politics and elections. Talk to people and you’ll see how dumb they are. Some people genuinely think that fascist coup plotter will fix things. 🤦‍♂️


    These elections (like the one OP is talking about) are election has lower turnout, so it probably favors democrats, since democrats are more energized to vote after the defeat last november.

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      There was a ton of irregularities reported btw. I forget the exact number but like 20-40 with enough evidence that they were bringing the cases forward. But when Trump came in he appointed someone to a role who dismissed them all.

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          Took me a while but I found what I was thinking of.

          It was the Fired FEC head

          But it wasn’t because she was fired they didn’t go forward, it’s because the board is 3/3 dem/rep so a republican would need to ‘flip’

          Asked by Alicia Menendez, “What is most alarming to you?” she replied, “Well, I can’t talk about anything that would be currently before the commission by law, complaints that are filed and any investigatory action remains confidential until the cases are closed.”

          She then continued. “But I can tell you that in the past we have had 63 separate complaints filed against the president or his political committees –– and not all complaints are well-founded not all complaints are worth the agency’s time to pursue. But our nonpartisan professional staff has advocated that we pursue 31 of those cases and, in not a single one, did we get four votes to move forward.”

          This is one of the things they talked about in the election interference hearings in December too

          “Almost every matter that the FEC has not pursued is associated with the former president [Trump]” (Rep Torres, about 57minutes in)

          Link to thread discussing: https://www.reddit.com/r/somethingiswrong2024/s/JUGCXE7Gab

          Link to full hearing on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/live/mIDJ5whpSHQ

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      There’s a pretty strong theory that it wass rigged by the tabulator software. One of the guys in DOGE was hired because he literally wrote software that could do that exact thing - modify submitted ballots. His involvement was literally scrubbed from the Internet before people found out about it (they missed a few spots). The Election Truth Alliance did a report on Clark County, NV, showed that there was a heavy skew after around 60% of the ballots were processed that should started lumping everything towards Trump - essentially, the votes should be chaotic, and almost somewhat random, not clearly clustering at the 60% mark.

      Other red flags, we had one of the largest years for voter registration, a majority for Democrats. The polling all showed that we were crushing it. His rallies were showing lower turnout, and everything pointed to his platform losing steam…and then he somehow wins every single swing state?

      Yeeeaaaahhhhh…that doesn’t happen…you should be questioning the results.

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        is there any data on registered voter turnout in a handful of counties where it really mattered? Because that would tell you whether or not the discrepancy is due to democrats simply not voting, a well known problem within the democratic party.

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          Per Ballotopedia: "The average turnout in the seven presidential battleground states was 70% in 2024. This was below the 2020 average, which was 70.7%. "

          One additional thing…Trump won every battleground, but somehow Democrats won pretty much every down ballot race in those states. I don’t believe for a second that someone voting Democrat down the board is going to vote Trump…a few voters will sure, but not enough to swing nearly every down ballot race…that’s absurd.

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            turnout compared to registration, not previous registration of the year before, compared to the previous year that turnout implies very high return rates, which are not quite what we see when looking at the data, the 2020 election had about 5 million more total turnout than the 2024 election. Likely due to the easier voting at the time of the 2020 election. Which is about a 3% change in turnout.

            turnout in the battleground states being the same makes sense, i’m curious about the turnout between registered voters, and political alignment, because if i had to guess, a bunch of registered dems, didn’t vote. Which would align with the party demographics, of course the other options are, the US literally wanted trump, which was a global shift away from incumbency, you can see it in the data, or that more republicans were mobilized.

            It’s not hard to account for the voter turnout, the problem is specifically why, did trump just run a more effective campaign mobilizing more people? Or did the harris campaign fail to mobilize people to actually vote, as has historically happened.

            I don’t believe for a second that someone voting Democrat down the board is going to vote Trump

            i mean, does this align with the incumbency though? Coming from the biden admin where he had pretty bad ratings, it’s possible a lot of the downballots were republican at the time, the us tends to flipflop like that, again, it’s historical precedent.

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        I mean I literally said this:

        The real “rigging” was done via unlimited political spending legalized by the Citizens United ruling to unfairly buy propaganda spreading lies. That, exacerbated by inflasion, voter apathy, democratic party incompetence, voter roll purges, and most important of all: Human Stupidity. And this timeline is the result.

        My point is, the actual vote count itself is legitimate, but the fairness of the election as a whole was definitely unfair.

        All elections in the history of the US has been biased in favor of the more regressive candidate. This one is not much different.

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    1. He didn’t “handily win” he won by 1-2 points in the swing states.

    2. It tracks with an anti-incumbent sentiment, people are not happy with inflation so they voted against the incumbent, they’re still not happy and still voting against the incumbent.

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      And he only won because a few million people who voted in 2020 sat on their asses instead of voting this time.

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          Democrat politicians have already decided “DEI” was the problem. Good luck getting those spineless cowards something resembling a moral framwork.

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              No, largely the “centrist” democrats that are doing this as a response to republicans embracing post truth death cultism. The progressive wing is mostly pushing back but I’ve seen at least two sniveling dems say some absolutely vile, trumpist shit.

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              no they are pointing out the Dems are doing literally anything to shift the blame from the party. I have seen so fucking many people argue that the dems should just drop all the trans issues and let the republicans win on it. Others blaming leftists for pointing out the problems with Harris.

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          “yeah because they supported genocide I didn’t primary them and instead let the guy who supports 2 genocides including the same one win”

          Wow fuckin clowns

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      He didn’t “handily win” he won by 1-2 points in the swing states.

      he won the popualar vote despite all the EVERYTHING

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        That tracks with the reality that half of America really likes the guy.

        America is the country that had almost 70% of Republicans polling that Nixon shouldn’t resign the day before congress decided to impeach.

        He won. It is unfortunate, but not unsurprising or requiring a leap of faith, and it has all evidence supporting it, factually.

        Now we need to take that reality and address it and the root causes–rather than fighting facts with preferred fantasy like the right wing has done at every opportunity.

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          I know that Republicans spent 2020 looking for bamboo in ballots, but haven’t been able to find even hand recounts in swing states. I think Democrats are so invested in being “good losers” that there has not been enough investigation into an election where Republicans certainly cheated as much as they were able to.

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            Apparently doing the “every accusation is a confession” projection routine years ago with the brazen 2020 election conspiracies has completely disarmed the democrats’ ability to do anything. They have become the political version of the Washington Generals (the basketball team who’s job it is to make things interesting for the audience by losing to the Harlem Globetrotters).

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          It’s not half of America, it’s half of half of eligible voters, and even some of them were holding their nose to do it.

          If the DNC was even remotely capable of caring about everyday people they could have easily won. They need to crawl out of the corporate pockets they’ve been living in and actually try to fix things if they don’t want to go the way of the Whigs.

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      There was no mandate. In 2024, every incumbent party in every liberal democracy worldwide lost ground because of inflation concerns.

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    Trump’s been talking about how he won because of Elon “being good with computers”

    Investigations were launched over less

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      Yeah, something about this shift in focus feels like a psyop. We have clear evidence of targeted voter suppression, destruction of ballots, etc. In a two party system, fraudulently removing your opponent’s votes has exactly the same impact as creating fake votes for yourself. That’s already clear evidence of fraud, why are we redefining “evidence of fraud” as a new thing that we haven’t found yet?

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    At this point anyone who denies Elon stole the election is just as wilfully ignorant and naive as I was when I thought Trump didn’t collude with Russia. How much blatant evidence do you need before you admit that the cheating fascists are cheating fascists? (they never will because democrats are doing literally nothing to stop Elon illegally dismantling the government) (edited to fix an autocorrect)

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      I mean - just by money and messaging or is there some actual data from voting that shows irregularities?

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        https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/

        4,776,706 voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls according to US Elections Assistance Commission data.
        By August of 2024, for the first time since 1946, self-proclaimed “vigilante” voter-fraud hunters challenged the rights of 317,886 voters. The NAACP of Georgia estimates that by Election Day, the challenges exceeded 200,000 in Georgia alone.
        No less than 2,121,000 mail-in ballots were disqualified for minor clerical errors (e.g. postage due).
        At least 585,000 ballots cast in-precinct were also disqualified.
        1,216,000 “provisional” ballots were rejected, not counted.
        3.24 million new registrations were rejected or not entered on the rolls in time to vote.

        If the purges, challenges and ballot rejections were random, it wouldn’t matter. It’s anything but random. For example, an audit by the State of Washington found that a Black voter was 400% more likely than a white voter to have their mail-in ballot rejected. Rejection of Black in-person votes, according to a US Civil Rights Commission study in Florida, ran 14.3% or one in seven ballots cast.

        There are also the uncountable effects of the explosive growth of voter intimidation tactics including the bomb threats that closed 31 polling stations in Atlanta on Election Day.

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      to be clear, there isn’t hard evidence that shows that trump colluded to win an election with the influence of russia, however it does show a LOT of overlap between the trump campaign, and russian influence in the election, all per the mueller report.

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    People on the left need to stop peddling this “Trump stole the election” stuff. It plays right into his rhetoric about our elections being rigged and allows him to cry again whenever his side loses. The comment in the screenshot looks like a fucking bot anyway.

    Dems didn’t dump Biden early enough and the average American voter is dirt fucking stupid. Plus you’re telling me there’s some sort of massive conspiracy to alter votes in 7 different states with separate election systems and no one blabbed?

    While I agree that every accusation is a confession until we see some hard proof that’s peer reviewed I’m skeptical. We shouldn’t be focusing on the past anyway, it doesn’t solve our current problems. We need to focus on the present and future.

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      Agreed. Fact is I don’t think they even needed to. The electoral college does most of it for them, and then when over half the nation doesn’t vote, and on top of that many Democrats just didn’t vote, it’s pretty obvious exactly what happened.

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        64% of the eligible population voted last presidential election, down from the record 66% in the previous. And Trump won the popular vote. We need reform but turnout is less of a problem than it has been historically.

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      People were unhappy with inflation and stuff and so they vote out the incumbent, it’s as simple as that. 100% the opposite party wins if things are going very badly.

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        I assumed this is why Musk is tweaking algorithms to show more positivity now that he is president

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          I assumed this is why Musk is tweaking algorithms to show more positivity now that he is president

          What algorithms would he tweak to “show more positivity”? Remember, one of the Dem arguments was basically looking at macroeconomic indicators and claiming things were going well, which was wildly out of line with what people on the ground were actually experiencing.

          By and large, working class folks don’t give a shit about macroeconomic indicators, they care about being able to afford what they need to live their lives and ideally being able to not spend every penny on necessities. “Inflation and stuff” as the user above put it, but as seen at checkout rather than on a spreadsheet.

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      If he stole the election, and he did, then that needs to be drummed into the heads of the ones who actually voted for him. He doesn’t care about anyone but himself or anything except whatever he defines as winning.

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          Rampant election tampering. The closing down of polling centers in neighborhoods that don’t fit his profile. The restrictions on mail-in ballots. Armed gravy seals at polling places for intimidation purposes. Interference and propaganda from Russia. He also explicitly stated he did in his speech.

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            Where’s the evidence?

            He also explicitly stated he did in his speech.

            That’s the way some people are interpreting those words, yes. However, this is not everyone’s interpretation; otherwise, it would be covered by every news source in the nation.

            I also don’t consider Trump a very good source for anything, and that includes information on Trump himself. He lies constantly, he rambles, he says stuff that doesn’t make any sense. He does not seem well. This was true in 2016 and is much more true today.

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      A local special election being won doesn’t mean a whole lot, either. Non-presidential elections and especially ones without Trump on the ballot inspire a very different voting group. This wasn’t a federal election, either.

      So my wager is on some combination of the following:

      1. Really low turnout.
      2. Mentioned working class.
      3. Didn’t mention Trump.
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      I’m sorry, but this is the most egregious example of “both sides do it” that I’ve ever seen.

      The republicans made denying the election a central pillar of their platform, and the lies was repeated by virtually every leader in the party. And a violent mob stormed the capitol in an attempt to overturn the vote.

      Show me a fragment of that being done by the left.

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        You’re under a post where someone is engaged in election denialism. You go to social media, even here, you can see it.

        You know, both sides doing something doesn’t mean or even imply that it’s to equal degree. It’s just that both sides in the US seem to be doing it right now.

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          You know, both sides doing something doesn’t mean or even imply that it’s to equal degree. It’s just that both sides in the US seem to be doing it right now.

          On this point, you are completely wrong. When you have one party making election denialism a core of their belief system while on the other side you have a few random people making claims on social media, it is absurd to claim that “both sides … seem to be doing it right now”. The very fact of you attempting to make the argument implies that there is equivalence between the two sides.

          No, both sides have not made denialism central to their party platform. No, the Democrats did not have any cabinet nominees who refused to acknowledge the legitimacy of the last election. No, both sides did not storm the Capitol building in an attempt to prevent the certification of the election.

          No, both sides are not doing it.

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            When you have one party making election denialism a core of their belief system while on the other side you have a few random people making claims on social media, it is absurd to claim that “both sides … seem to be doing it right now”.

            But that’s both sides doing it. You just described people from both sides doing it…

            No, both sides have not made denialism central to their party platform. No, the Democrats did not have any cabinet nominees who refused to acknowledge the legitimacy of the last election. No, both sides did not storm the Capitol building in an attempt to prevent the certification of the election.

            Right, and I never claimed so.

            No, both sides are not doing it.

            I’m sorry but they are. What you have a problem is understanding the difference (not even nuance) of “both sides are doing it” and “both sides are doing it to the same degree/same level/whatever”. It’s two very different things.

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              Both sides would refer to equivalent people doing it, so actual political members of the party since that’s where the Republicans set the bar, not just some random public citizens on the internet.

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                Both sides would refer to equivalent people doing it

                No it doesn’t. Both sides are doing X can just mean literally that, both sides are doing X. You’re confusing that with “both siding”, where you are saying that with the intention to imply that they’re somehow equivalent or equal. And that’s not what I’m doing, as you can probably tell by now.

                Just recognizing that it’s happening on both sides doesn’t mean or even imply you think it’s happening to the same degree.

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                  What do you think “both siding” entails?

                  It is the simple reduction of two completely disproportionate responses to the phrase “both sides do it”.

                  The same logic keeps being applied to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Both sides are fighting, they say, so both sides share equal responsibility for the destruction and for making peace.

                  I believe you when you say it isn’t your intent to do so, but in that case you are doing so obliviously. You don’t even know who the commenter is, so it’s pure assumption on your part that they’re even left wing to begin with.

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          Of course it’d be both sides. They use projection to shield themselves. So if they were going to steal an election, they’d accuse the dems of doing it first.

          This isn’t conscious but they think everyone thinks like them so if they’re trying to steal the election obviously the dems are too.

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        If they are complaining about rigged elections, do you think they themselves rigged the recent elections?

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            It was fascinating in 2008 watching a FOX anchor arguing with their in-house analysts when they called Ohio for Obama. He was arguing that the votes would start shifting to McCain just like they did for Bush in 2004. Sure enough, the same glitch happened, but the vote ratio didn’t change.

            He started getting frantic after that, sure that the votes would start going for McCain any minute. It was super obvious he knew about what actually happened in 2004.

            Interestingly, “Anonymous” claimed to have blocked the hack saving the election; which is both nonsense and probably technically true at the same time.

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            Interesting times ahead for the US when both of their major sided are losing (or lost) faith in elections.

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              The right got dozens of days in court to share whatever evidence they claimed to have that 2020 was stolen. They couldn’t provide a single shred of evidence for voter fraud that wasn’t in their favor. Now, with plenty of evidence, if the other side requests their day in court they are called crazy and conspiracy theorists and blue maga and blue anon and any other number of ad hominem attacks. What are they afraid of, if there was no hack let them prove it in court. But republicans don’t play fair and they never have, so why are Dems playing so easily into their hands? Are they that desperate to distance themselves from what they’ve seen as crazy election deniers? That means all the ad hominem worked.

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      …but only when Republicans lose. When Democrats lose, it’s decorum all the way down. So basically, Republicans will never admit to losing fairly ever again, because election denialism isn’t punished.

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        I’ve seen a lot of election denialism after the most recent Republican wins. Not equal amounts to after Republican loss, not even close, but still a noticeable amount.

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          Notably, though, not from anyone really in a leadership position. Where’s Biden calling a governor and asking him to help him out, just a little? Where’s the senators and party board screaming about it?

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          Folk on the internet will say a lot of stupid shit without evidence to back it up, that’s why “a lot of people are saying” should be a statement that carries a significant amount of skepticism and doubt. I don’t see much actual denialism coming from Democratic leadership.

          The infuriating, part is that I expect the Dem leadership to at least be interested enough in knowing the truth to investigate and uncover facts that could lead to credible accusations of election interference. The yokels online are gonna be mad no matter what, but did the party really expect the guy who credibly cheated in the last two elections to not cheat again? ESPECIALLY since he was specifically not punished for it despite being found guilty? I hate that the smallest hint of truth-seeking efforts gets shot down as some kind of betrayal of party morals.

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          It’s not really denialism when there’s evidence. Verify the evidence.

          It’s only denialism when it’s irrational and not based on coherent arguments. (Ie. Trump in 2020)

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    Let’s be frank: it was a special election where about a tenth of eligible voters turned out.

    Trump ain’t gonna see an FDR level midterms victory, unless he manages to destroy the American democracy totally, but I wouldn’t look at this as evidence of some major shift by itself.

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    Part of why Trump wins is simply because there’s more brand recognition for him. He gets media written about him very easily and his photo gets splashed around BY BOTH SIDES!

    In today’s politics there’s nothing worse than becoming “what’s his name” - “the other guy”.

    In the age of the para-social relationship the big names get the votes, regardless of whether they’re liked or a reasonable choice.

    Oddly enough the establishment left seem to think politics is a meritocracy. Which is idiotic and part and parcel with them being generally out of touch.

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      I feel strongly that the world has Mark Burnett (creator of The Apprentice) to thank for the presidencies of DJT being inflicted upon it.

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    He won “legitimately” by suppressing the votes he couldn’t get in swing states. I heard that if you’re black or in a metro area in a swing state that your vote was likely thrown out through some beurocratic bullshit.

    Grain of salt: I did hear this on YouTube and I don’t remember the channel, it might have been humanist report or something like that. It definitely sounded legit, though.

    They had four years to corrupt the election offices in specific areas and I 100% believe they could and would pursue that opportunity.

    EDIT: another poster shared this, this is basically the same thing I heard. https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/

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      I heard that if you’re black or in a metro area in a swing state that your vote was likely thrown out through some beurocratic bullshit.

      the only thing i’ve seen backed up is that a bunch of republicans were challenging registration status of mostly minority identities, pretty much all of which were fraudulent, so it’s possible that this did influence it, not very significantly im guessing, im also pretty sure as a voter, that if your registration was invalid, it would be very very obvious to you. Everything i know about voting registration informs me that you must do all of this BEFORE election day, im not sure if there are any processes that allow you to retroactively do this, im guessing there are a few, but probably for select circumstances, very unlikely to be those im guessing.

      Realistically, they probably gerrymandered and ran aggressive campaigning, which appears to have worked.

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    And what we’ll see is by next election this guy will lose his seat because Republicans and Independents are dumber than goldfish.

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    Yeah sure they’re a bunch of evil criminals, so if they had the methods to cheat they probably did.

    But let’s say that tomorrow there are worldwide headlines about some irrefutable smoking gun evidence. Or maybe Musk goes on TV being a little bit too high, or Trump gives an interview while a few neurons too many wither and die in his skull, and they say they did it, tell us where to find the evidence, and say it was worth it and they did it because they are patriots trying to save the country. Just doubling down on the old “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.”

    DOES ANYTHING EVEN HAPPEN? Who is gonna do something about it?

    The absolute most extreme result I could possibly see being reality would be that Trump manages to get Musk accused and convicted for the interference. That would be just as funny as it is unlikely, but it would fix nothing.

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    this really draws attention to how unpopular kamala harris was and what a fucked up party the DNC is.

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    Hello, sorry to disturb, can you add his name or surname or political party in the description or title so I can filter this out please?

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      Yeah I wish there was a “political” filter on lemmy. Every post about politics is just people fighting or fearmongering lol.

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      You can’t filter the real world. Do your own ignoring every now and again. use that brain instead of a Boolean filter.

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        So judgemental, what of I got my information from outside Lemmy and just want to come here to see funny thing and shitpost ?

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          Then just ignore this yourself. Barging in and demanding that everyone else do something differently because you got a whiff of it is like going to your neighbors to complain about what they made for dinner each night.

          Eventually it’s on you to do that last bit of ignoring if your goal is to ignore the world around you. Don’t make it everyone else’s problem when it’s yours.