Things like the trail of tears don’t come to mind? The Native American genocide is generally quite well-known. But there’s a thousand all over the place, random example Tasmania. If you now say “But that was the result of an uprising and a war, not premeditated as genocide”: Same goes for the Herero and Nama one.
since it has the common ground of white supremacy.
It has the common ground in technological and military supremacy flanked by the native, European that is, population being really into the enlightenment, insisting that there be a distinction between power and justice, and the feudal powers that be then sought new people to oppress abroad, also due to a relative power stalemate among empires/alliances in Europe, everything that could be conquered at home already had been conquered. That’s like multiple centuries summed up but it’s the main forces. Scientific racism was invented to rationalise the whole endeavour to the less power-focussed but at its core it’s plain ole feudal imperialism. Which is why the continent is so up in arms about Ukraine: Russia wants to re-start that shit, re-conquer some of its previously ill-gotten possessions. As if it didn’t have plenty still.
The Herero and Nama was a genocide, yes. Not something you could single Germany out for, though.
you meant that others where responsible for this genocide, not only the Germans.
It has the common ground in technological and military supremacy flanked by the native, European that is, population being really into the enlightenment,
you meant that others where responsible for this genocide, not only the Germans.
Nope. I meant that Germany isn’t the only country to have committed colonial genocides.
Ouch. That’s a colonial narrative. Scary.
That’s a) out of context quoted like that and b) historically accurate. Colonial expansion pre-dates scientific racism. If you want earlier evil motives try Christian missionaries, universalist in their own twisted way. Though going back in history on that one I think we’d need to start with Charlemange and the christianisation-by-genocide of the Saxons.
Things like the trail of tears don’t come to mind? The Native American genocide is generally quite well-known. But there’s a thousand all over the place, random example Tasmania. If you now say “But that was the result of an uprising and a war, not premeditated as genocide”: Same goes for the Herero and Nama one.
It has the common ground in technological and military supremacy flanked by the native, European that is, population being really into the enlightenment, insisting that there be a distinction between power and justice, and the feudal powers that be then sought new people to oppress abroad, also due to a relative power stalemate among empires/alliances in Europe, everything that could be conquered at home already had been conquered. That’s like multiple centuries summed up but it’s the main forces. Scientific racism was invented to rationalise the whole endeavour to the less power-focussed but at its core it’s plain ole feudal imperialism. Which is why the continent is so up in arms about Ukraine: Russia wants to re-start that shit, re-conquer some of its previously ill-gotten possessions. As if it didn’t have plenty still.
Ah ok. I thought when you said
you meant that others where responsible for this genocide, not only the Germans.
Ouch. That’s a colonial narrative. Scary.
Nope. I meant that Germany isn’t the only country to have committed colonial genocides.
That’s a) out of context quoted like that and b) historically accurate. Colonial expansion pre-dates scientific racism. If you want earlier evil motives try Christian missionaries, universalist in their own twisted way. Though going back in history on that one I think we’d need to start with Charlemange and the christianisation-by-genocide of the Saxons.