While tens of thousands of people have joined Facebook groups in Sweden and Denmark calling for no longer buying American, Norwegian company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced that it will stop supplying US military vessels with fuel.
This first US company they (and everyone) needs to boycott is Meta.
I’m in Canada and Facebook is huge for my business. We get more bang out of a free social media post than paying for advertisements anywhere.
I fricking HATE IT.
On a personal level, I almost never use facebook. I refuse to put it on my phone and really only use it not to post stuff for the business - which I do through a 3rd party social media app.
FB is huge in Canada for personal stuff too, me and my friends do not post meal pic or vacation or things like this, but damn marketplace and some hobbies group are strong there. Just the “Made in Canada” FB group grew from 50’000 members to 1.1 million in less than a month.
FB can be easily replaced with Lemmy, it’s just a question of age/generation I guess
no not really, its a totally different thing. you cant follow people here, nobody here uses their real name, and you can’t limit visibility of content to just friends. marketplace is also not a thing, and that feature is not just yet another community
Pretty sure you can follow people on mbin.
I wish Friendica would take off more.
I said that a Facebook group is like a Lemmy community, not that Lemmy can replace Facebook. You got friendica for that (never used it though) For marketplace replacement, Flohmarkt is coming
FB can be easily replaced with Lemmy
Check below…
you did. check above
Lemmy is more an alternative to reddit. Friendica is the alternative to FB from the fediverse
Unsure about that in terms of business pages but I suppose you can if you try hard enough: side bar for standard info, posts for events and communication. The only thing it lacks is the followers portion that acts as soft advertisement, e.g. if your friend follows something, you can see it.
Aren’t there actually tiktok alternatives I’m the Fediverse, rather than suggesting something that’s use case is different?
Edit: I meant to say Facebook alternatives…
I meant FB groups, they are jusr like Lemmy communities: it’s a question of a topic + a group of people
Loops, but it’s still almost alpha.
“All it takes for evil to succeed, is good people to say, “it’s just business.”” - Janet Leahy, Michael Reisz
Don’t feel bad for using it for your business.
As you said, a free post is better than paid ads somewhere else. And you don’t use it personally, that’s the great part. Moreover, you use lemmy. Kudos to you
Norway walked that back.
Norway says it will keep supplying fuel to US navy after company calls for boycott
It was a private company that decided not to provide their refueling services to the American Navy, not the Norwegian government. What the government is saying is that they will not be not doing the same that Haltbakk Bunkers is doing. But this company stays firm. The practical effects will probably be minimal, since they are an important but rather small actor in the sector. But as a Norwegian, I am proud of them! (And not so much of my government).
Really awesome what Haltbakk Bunkers is doing! Proud of dutch pension fund ABP selling all their tesla stock
Fucking cowards. “Free world” my ass
Add Google to that.
Absolutely! Remove all meta apps and close your accounts. Zuck is a big suckup to Trump and his software collects and sells your data as if there is no tomorrow
That’s true, but first we need to reach enough people to get the movement going. In the meantime they should just turn on their adblockers.
Meta is bad although I would argue that X and Tesla are worse.
American here: genuinely, go for it. If you want to be even more highly targeted, you can also take a page out of Canada’s book: they’re encouraging people to target things that are produced in red states specifically, in addition to a general push for a boycott. Bourbon (from Kentucky), for instance.
As an American here, I think I might join them. Start buying more Canadian goods.
Like their whiskey!
That was my first thought. I want to find one that is smaller and distributed near me.
I might start with Crown Royal. At least the owning company is British (they also own my favorite American whiskey.)
Hah, same.
Most grocery stores now highlight Canadian goods next to the price tag on the shelf
That “Made in America” logo is going to start being viewed very differently than when I was a kid.
Good, fuck the USA and it’s garbage products. It’d be harder to do if they weren’t shit now, but perpetually cutting quality is basically the USA’s motto. Now they are experiencing it in the government.
Exactly this. And then try and sell us their shitty stuff that’s doused in diseases and add tariffs to it?!?! Just to suck profit out of formerly allied countries, and force them to suffer for your own gain??!
Big Fuck you USA.
Doused in diseases?
What do you mean by that? That sounds like biological warfare.
There is a long-running disagreement between the US and the EU because the EU does not allow the purchase of US poultry since it does not meet EU food standards. Put bluntly, they keep too many chickens in a too small coup, and diseases spread between them as a result on top of the sheer cruelty of it all. To compensate, they give them a lot of antibiotics, which has the effect of creating and spreading resistant superbacteria. At least that’s the allegation.
And US does not allow Camembert, raw meat, etc. From Europe.
Doesn’t Denmark use a lot of antibiotics?
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Man, I wish. Preschool rocked.
You should come with me because grammar and punctuation don’t seem like a strong suit.
Also it was probably free if you’re in the EU, unlike the dude above you, lol. His parents had to get another job to pay for school.
Canadian 💪
My Netflix membership is 10 years old. I’ve cancelled it yesterday. Also my prime membership.
Alldebrid.com is French. Just use that for streaming with Stremio or Kodi + Seren
Our family Netflix subscription ran for over 10 years and yesterday I canceled it. I also canceled my subscriptions for discord, chatGPT, claude and dropbox. BOYCOTT U.S. SOFTWARE
Just learned claude is also US. The only European AI seems to be Mistral.ai
yes, it is not bad, but a few months behind here is the ios app: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/le-chat-by-mistral-ai/id6740410176?l=en-GB
actually works well free and generates really good images with blackforest api
Honest question, not making fun, not judging: why do you have a subscription for chatgpt and Claude? Do you use it that often? Or is work related?
work related. tbh i have even more AI subscriptions that I cant cancel (yet)
and yet your country is much worse off! grow up
godspeed
Here’s to hoping trump tariff war makes those stupid American pick-up trucks a lot more expensive to buy in EU. I hope the douchebags that bought them before have to pay way higher prices for parts now.
Not to mention Tesla.
Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don’t get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.
EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal
Edit because I’m getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ%3AL_202302675
Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:
ANNEX I
Union response measures pursuant to Article 8
[…]
- The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.
This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.
That would be amazing! It would actually have some teeth
This sounds really interesting, do you have a link or anything I could look for in a quick search to learn more?
Search for Anti-Coercion Instrument, the one that came into effect in December 2023
We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It’s due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.
With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.
We need an Europan open source stack.
What kind of stack are you thinking of?
I’m trying to make a google stack replacement, which can also extend to microsoft
That’s worse. If someone was telling me about “google or microsoft stacks” without explaining what it is, I would laugh.
Are you talking about OS, mobile OS, GUI, web, SaaS, APIs, services, subscriptions, servers, cloud, VMs, …? What the fuck is a stack? Stack is a term that has been stolen by web devs and means nothing anymore.
…the services provided by google?
You tell me. What is a Google stack? What is a Microsoft stack? The other guy was talking about a “tech stack” which practically means nothing.
Google’s stack is the services they provide, so google docs is an example, google drive, hangouts, gmail, that bunch
And the mirror from microsoft like m$ word, outlook, their cloud i forget the name of, minishit teams
That type of shit, what else would i be talking about? It was very clear from the beginning
Piracy!
If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his
clownsclan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.Removed by mod
You’re entitled to that opinion, and feel free to suggest a change of law, but for now … it’s still the law. And obeying only the laws that suits your goals is very much Trump/MAGA style. Let’s not get down to their level.
If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump
“Fascism is when piracy”. What a take
And so: Hello Lemmy! Here I am! Left ‘socials’ like reddit, dropped hotmail and google accounts … i’ts not much but it’s start
Welcome, new one!
Welcome!
Welcome - just did the same myself or still in the transition of it. Soaking up so much information about how to take data / information in my own hands again.
Welcome! :D
boycott us, please please please please
Send this.
great! as an American please keep it up. the only thing these assholes understand is money. support us by NOT supporting us!
Each day now, I don’t buy a Tesla or an iPhone or a New York Penthouse.
That must be difficult, you’re going through a lot and I’m here if you need someone to talk to.
Support your local breweries and buy their sodas and not coca cola <3 I do this and ngl Oettinger cola-mix and Riegele Spezi are amazing
it is not hard to do if it’s actually better. Spezi 🥰
Uhhh… I don’t think I will
Apfel Schorle is much better than a Coke anyway
If you want to be that way: tap water is way better
Literally the only thing I miss about living in a Germanic country lmao
Absolutely nothing else? :O
Wdym? We have Apfelschorle
That’s my point, I don’t live in a Germanic country anymore and Apfelschorle (Rhabarbershorle too) is the only thing I miss
But you can get apple juice and sparkling water, right?
That’s kinda genius, I must try next time
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Ooooh. I understood it that you are in a germanic country and miss these things lol
As a mexican I can say that this will be really hard, mexicans love so much Coke btw we have popular alternatives like red cola, but I’ve only seen masons consume that product
it won’t be hard when you understand that USA is selling you on their diseased junk just to profit off of you. We need to wake up to the fact that they are not selling us good products. They are selling us JUNK with no government oversight that is now full of GOD KNOWS WHAT just to keep it cheap, and turn a profit at the expense of your health and hard earned money.
Oh yeah i saw that in a documentary! Its called a holy drink, isnt it? A brew from god. Using it in native and catholic religiouse rituals
Trouble with that in the UK is Coca-cola is the only soft drink really that hasn’t bowed to the sugar tax and changed their recipe to be full of artificial sweeteners.
I absolutely can’t stand the taste of these sweeteners and some even make me feel kinda of bad after drinking them.
Idk if it has even spread to England but when I lived in Scotland I only ever bought Irn-Bru
Sorry to tell you but irn bru went from god tier to pour down the toilet tier.
They did try to pull it back with 1911 version but it’s nowhere as good as it was before the sugar tax and completely uncarbonated and priced like it’s liquid gold.
It hasn’t? When I was in Manchester in January, anything except the cans had a bunch of artificial sweeteners in it, in order to lower the sugar content. I don’t know if the cans are a small enough size to skirt the tax, or just not be worth raising the price over, but bottles of regular Coke definitely had artificial sweeteners in them.
Guess you found a market hole :)
To be fair the sugar tax is so ridiculously harsh there is nobody but Coca Cola who hasn’t made their drinks taste horrible instead.
This is the time for the Italian MoleCola to shine!
Is it coca cola with extra hair?
https://www.buy-european-made.eu/
https://european-alternatives.eu/
And for us Canadian, there is always https://madeincanadadirectory.ca/
Thank you!
As a Canadian, I have no problem supporting our EU friends.
And to be honest, just looking at the list you can tell that the ethics within those companies are completely different than what you find with the American alternatives.
Even without a dictator leading the States, buying European would still be better. 🤭
Pretty wild, actually!
Sig Jolly til din cola. 🥤
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Can you somehow add content to these lists? I think I didn’t see Galaxus (european Amazon alternative) on there anywhere :)
can you imagine if the movement that we are experiencing in canada takes place all over europe? that would be huge
I think it will. China has announced sanctions on particular US companies. I’d like to see more of that on Trump-positive businesses.
“Calls for Europe to stop eating garbage food like Americans.” Sounds like a good idea to me.
We have our own garbage food. If you don’t go to McDonald’s or Burger King, you can go to Hesburger or whatever else your region has. Admittedly still inspired by American garbage food, but profits European companies.
Hesburger? Interesting, I’ll have to look that up, haven’t heard of it.
Finland and Baltics mostly. It’s the biggest chain here in Estonia by locations (unless you count gas stations), but probably 2nd in popularity because McDonald’s seems more popular. Idk if they put crack on their fries or what, but it’s just not comparable.
Close, copious amounts of sugar
Like we arent doing that already
As an American I support this action.
Bro, me too, fuck everything about trump, and right now, fuck us. I’m not buying shit unless I have to. Except from local shops.
I’ve felt this way since Mango Mussolini’s first term.
Same, the only language Trump Co. speak is money, gotta hit em where it hurts.
I feel bad that as consumers at best we label all under Trump’s banner, at worst we don’t have the ability to punish only the red states like government tariffs can do
Stay strong
