• USSMojave@startrek.website
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    5 months ago

    Oh my god, nothing is enough for you people. She’s literally pushing for an immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of the Israeli military and advocating for a 2 state solution. Isn’t that precisely what we want?

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        5 months ago

        How about we start with babysteps of not actively and vigorously committing genocide.

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        5 months ago

        No no no… Gaza can take out a loan with insane terms from the IMF just like every other slave country. /s

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      5 months ago

      One state is the real solution. That’s going to take time to rebuild trust. Until then, Biden’s ceasefire agreement and Gaza rebuild plan is a great start.

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        Yeah, the Knesset has signaled in no uncertain terms that they will never support a two state solution.

        A two-state solution is something that sounds good to people who don’t understand the history and the geography, but the reality is that Israel will always be looking to take over the remainder of Gaza and the Westbank. The already have to a huge extent, I don’t think people realize just how much Palestine has been made into swiss cheese. You can’t make a state out of that.

        It’s the apartheid state that needs to end, Israel cannot remain an ethno-state if there’s ever going to be an end to all this. Theres nowhere else on earth that we’d be arguing that it needs to be ethnically “pure”. Palestinians have been in that region as long as anyone, they need to be equal citizens with equal rights.

        Its not a pipe dream, the world pressured South Africa to end apartheid, they can do it with Israel if world leaders actually show some backbone.

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          While I agree that there should be a secular, non-ethno-, state of The Levantine Union or something, there is no realistic path to that that doesn’t start from a two-state basis I don’t think. Palestine and Israel first need to comingle culturally and intertwine economically (in a mutually beneficial manner–not just Israel exploiting Palestinians for cheap hard labor) before any unification can really happen imo.

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        5 months ago

        Good luck convincing Israel to fold up because I’m pretty confident you aren’t going to convince Palestinians about that. Or are you advocating for some ol’ two speed citizenship?