• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I want her to win bruh. And this is the stick in her spokes. There is no daylight between her and Biden, and no meaningful daylight between her and Trump.

    She needs to win. She’s losing on this issue with the key demographics she needs to get the 1-3% she needs to win the swing states. Throw away the moral wrong if supporting a genocide. Quite literally, it’s just a strategically bad decision to not distance herself from Israel and this genocide.

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      2 months ago

      Wtf are you talking about?

      One is a literal convicted criminal who tried to start a civil war who has modernised bigotry and racism. Who gives away highly classified information and tells people that migrants are eating their pets

      The other is someone who actually follows and fully understands the law

      Do you really believe in a international Court of law of any type they can convict Biden or kamala of genocide?

      I don’t. Because you’re blowing their involvement way out of proportion

      But Trump already lost court cases for being a rapist at a minimum, and he is a convicted tax cheat

      He’s literally going to hurricane affected areas and lying to people and telling them Biden is leaving them to suffer. And, the lies are so bad that even disaster response are having to waste time doing press conferences EXPLICITLY to rebuke those lies as they cause harm.

      He does so much incredibly bad shit that people forget all the bad shit he does. The only way you couldn’t see a difference would be if your standards are super low. Sorry, there is NO comparison. Literally, the only real argument I’ve seen against Kamala is Israel (and they’re also an ally, so it might not be as easy as people think). With Trump, he still won’t change that (but claims he’ll create world peace), and he’ll fuck American’s to death (and many of us international people).

      Internationally, it’s not even a debate between the two. He’s basically fucking up international relationships with lots of countries including Australia, and humbly bragging about being friends with dictators.

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      2 months ago

      Nobody gives a fuck about the Palestinians who isn’t in a hardcore blue state.

      Any remotely swing states could potentially swing right because they don’t want to see us being soft on potential Muslim terrists.

      Trump could GAIN points by saying his first day in office he’d bomb Gaza to glass.

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            2 months ago

            Yeah bud… MANY people give a shit about the issue. And while the gEnOciDE crowd are obnoxious… that doesn’t mean the underlying point isn’t relevant.

            Chill.

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              2 months ago

              I’m sure it’s relevant.

              But holy shit they’re getting as obnoxious as the Trumpers at this point, and that must take dire dedication.

              People should chill the fuck out, and they are absolutely harshing everyone’s mellow.

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                2 months ago

                if exterminating the Palestinians makes this issue die, I guess I am then.

                WTF DUDE!?!? I felt dirty just copying and pasting that hateful shit.

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              2 months ago

              I wouldn’t say they’re cool with genocide, but they’re clearly unhinged af… I’m with ya on this. (Mostly)

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                  2 months ago

                  Right… you essentially said that you’re fine with Palestine being wiped out if it makes them shut up.

                  Your head isn’t just in the wrong place on this- it’s entirely absent from the discussion.

                  • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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                    2 months ago

                    Right… you essentially said that you’re fine with Palestine being wiped out if it makes them shut up.

                    No, you misunderstood me completely.

                    I am fine with Palestine being wiped out if it makes YOU shut up.

                    They are fine, I actually don’t have a problem with them, it is their land afterall.

                    Assholes like you going nuts and trying to drag everything to this issue even though it’s one of the smallest and least important for this election? That pisses me off.