This is a weird meme. The Democrats actively tried to court suburban white voters and other traditionally right-Leaning demographics. They tried to peel Republicans off. The democrats never offered socialists a cup labeled “liberalism”, they offered “moderate republicans” a cup labeled “Border Control and Bush era political icons” and they said “Bro. I already told you I will only ever vote for Republicans”.
need this comment pinned to the top of .world for the next months
> Democrats: Run most leftist administration in the history of the country
> Democrats: Pass law after law and EO after EO that are a wishlist of progressive and leftist policies
> Democrats: Put officers from the most famous leftist movement in a century in high and visible positions of power in the government
> Leftists online: We never get anything by voting for Democrats they have betrayed us and move to the right constantly
TBH, it’s long past time for the Democratic Party to actually start ignoring the fringe left and work for the American people.
You honestly think the US Democratic Party has any “fringe left” policy? ROFLMAO
I’d bet everything I own on your being from the United States. No other citizens are consistently this ignorant of political theory.
Lmao. Yep. We’re boned. lol.
If after doing fuckall about real shit like grocery prices and rent you clowns lost so bad that no republican has had such a mandate since Reagan in 1980 this is your response?
Yeah, we’re cooked chat. Buy guns and dried beans. You’re gonna need em.
most leftist administration in the history of the country
That’s hilarious
Lay of the mushrooms dude. Those are some serious hallucinations.
Despite all the Biden administrations achievements, they still haven’t addressed what the left has been asking for over the last decade.
Stop supporting the war in Gaza? Nah.
Single-payer healthcare system? Nuh uh.
Housing crisis relief? If you’re good… maybe.
Courts and criminal justice reform? Lol.
Billionaire tax? Nope.
Livable minimum wage? Psh.
Legalize marijuana? Hah! No.
Sudent loan debt? …Maybe. Depends on how much I like you.
You mean the shit that keeps getting blocked by the courts? By judges appointed by Trump himself?
Jesus fucking christ. He’ll appoint yet MORE judges this time, maybe some more to SCOTUS, and you people will complain next time one of them blocks a Dem down the road… Fuck me.
Blocked by the corrupt courts. Our judiciary is compromised.
Maybe letting Trump appoint more will help.
Man, it’s a good thing Trump is going to implement all of those things.
Can’t seem to get them from Democrats, either, so what’s your point?
The point is that if you have one party that won’t legalize weed and won’t criminalize abortion at the federal level, and you have another party that won’t legalize weed but will criminalize abortion at the federal level, the first party is better. Now apply this to other issues. Families will be forcibly separated when Trump begins his mass deportation, Bird Flu will be COVID 2.0 when RFK is in Trump’s cabinet, etc.
Everyone on .world and .ml is focused on what the Dems haven’t done or won’t do. Ok, put that aside for a second. Do you think that Trump is going to put into place any of the policies listed above? Do you think he will be a better president than Kamala Harris would have been?
If the answer to both questions is “no,” I truly don’t understand the logic in complaining about what Dems didn’t do in the last four years. Not voting for Harris because she wasn’t left enough is cutting off your nose to spite your own face. The country will be far worse under Trump.
If you answer “yes” to either, then we are too far apart to have any meaningful conversations.
Dude, the election is over. The only thing we can do moving forward is try to learn a lesson. Blaming other people isn’t a solution. We can only try to do better next time, which requires confronting what we could do better, not what others did wrong. We have no control over that.
If your only solution is that everything is other people’s fault, you’re not being constructive. You’re only angry and lashing out, which is understandable but keep that to places that’s wanted ideally. You’re pretty deep in a thread trying to solve problems, not just blame others.
Mate, if you think anything I’ve said is “angry and lashing out,” I don’t know what to tell you. I’m frustrated sure, but wasn’t the one who started to dole out blame. The original comment I responded to was blaming Dems lol.
Still interested in if you think the country will be better under Trump than under Harris.
It shouldn’t be a surprise that the people who believe politics no longer serves them aren’t motivated to participate in the political system.
It is also shouldn’t be a surprise that political system not only doesn’t give a shit but also doesn’t have an idea about people who don’t participate in it. Almost by definition.
So who’s going to change? The disillusioned voters? Or the politicians running for office? Or are we just going to keep on yelling at people who aren’t listening?
Oh, politicians will do the changing all right. They will identify the people who vote and will cater more to them, moving further right. Many of them don’t want that actually, but since getting votes is the only way to be elected, and left doesn’t vote, they just have to.
People though? I don’t know, right now I’m disappointed in all the America, so I don’t believe change is possible. I however will continue yelling at idiots who don’t want right wing politicians but don’t vote therefore don’t express their wants. I will also continue doing public communication, maybe less yelly though.
Fixed that second panel because there isn’t even a pretense of respect
I don’t understand the difference. What is this meme talking about?
Democrats and moderates are blaming leftists because they believe that because of their stances on Gaza and other issues that leftists didn’t vote for them. They are unable to reflect on why they actually lost and don’t realize the thousand plus issues with their own party so they are working overtime to try and shift the blame. They ran the most unappealing campaign since Clinton and independents didn’t show up or actively voted against her.
WHeRe iS tHe leFt uNiTy
Buried with all of the socialists and unions liberals have betrayed.
Is that why you helped the fascist win? Cause that’s a better option?
You Americans refuse to take personal responsibility for your lack of duty and apathy. And you really don’t get it
My only hope is you morons stay where you are and reap what you sow, instead of coming to my country and infecting us with your toxicity
Who are you saying helped the fascists win? The democratic party courted war criminals like dick cheney, claimed that genocide must be carried out, and immediately insisted we run even further to the right after losing the election. Are these the ones you think are defending us from fascism? I suppose it’s the leftists’ fault for wanting to promote popular progressive policies instead of pretending everything is fine?
I would be interested in knowing which country you’re from since the neoliberal-fascism tag team seems to be running globally and I would be interested in knowing where this isn’t happening.
The third panel should say “I prefer Trump to Harris”
Fucking too true.
Argued till I was blue in the face right here on Lemmy about sitting out and voting third party. The entire time I was thinking those who are fine with Trump must either be stupid or privileged so as not to be as affected by his bullshit.
You’ll be blue in the face 'til the end of time, 'cuz you’re still trying to blame the electorate for the failures of the party. Your conception of how voting works is so backwards you think that the party is owed the allegiance of the people rather than the people being owed the faithful representation of their interests regardless of who is in power.
“The Democrats can’t fail, they can only be failed!” That’s you. That’s what you sound like.
If you couldn’t see that one of the two parties would end up in power then you are the problem.
If you think that what happened before must inevitably happen again then you are the problem. The major parties only win because they have people like you convinced that they are the only option.
So how did voting third party work for you? Did they win?
I voted for Harris, how did that work for me? Did she win?
Wow, if only you’d voted for the Greens they would have won
And I wish I had a million dollars. It’s just not reality.
People should be smart enough to work backward from a foregone conclusion: We’re getting the Dem or Rep nominee. Picking the best of your two options is logical. Anything else is wishing. Grow up.
There’s no “wishing” going on here. I’m explaining how your concept of voting has cause and effect reversed and you’re pretending that it’s “wishes” instead of basic political literacy.
People should be smart enough to work backward from a foregone conclusion: We’re getting the Dem or Rep nominee.
Not if the voters vote for someone else. You’re only assuming that the two major parties are inevitable because you’re drinking their kool-aid.
If they can’t convince people to vote for them then they lose. It’s on them to convince us, but you’ve already decided that they don’t need to because they’re owed your vote. You have deliberately rejected your civic duty to the nation in favor of blind obedience to the party just like Washington warned us about.
Grow up.
You first.
Damn that’s crazy because here’s me before the election telling the future. How in the world did I perform this feat? Do I have amazing powers of precognition?
Again, you’re telling us what you’d wish would happen. I was telling them what would happen.
What’s more is this is a concept that both the GOP and their voters understand. It’s why the GOP funds campaigns like Stein and gets others like RFK Jr. to bow out. Everyone who doesn’t understand this should be deeply embarrassed to misunderstand something about the US election system that Donald fucking Trump understands. And he dumb as shit.
See you in 4 years when the next president is the Dem or Rep nominee. *holds hands at temples, activating powers of foresight*
Damn that’s crazy because here’s me before the election telling the future. How in the world did I perform this feat? Do I have amazing powers of precognition?
Did you ever write to your congressional representatives like they suggested?
Again, you’re telling us what you’d wish would happen. I was telling them what would happen.
If the result was inevitable then the voters have no agency and are in no way responsible for the outcome.
What’s more is this is a concept that both the GOP and their voters understand.
You’re giving the most heavilly propagandized segment of the most heavily propagandized country on earth a lot of credit when they can’t even seem to understand that a tarrif is a tax on imports.
It’s why the GOP funds campaigns like Stein and gets others like RFK Jr. to bow out.
You mean like how the Democrats promoted Trump thinking that he’d be an easy win for Hillary?
Did you ever write to your congressional representatives like they suggested?
No, because I don’t support a weapons ban. That’s beside the point.
If the result was inevitable then the voters have no agency and are in no way responsible for the outcome.
I think you’re smart enough to know how a FPTP voting system works. We had 2 real options. Voters have agency as to which one of the two are elected. Stop pretending like you don’t understand how this works.
You’re giving the most heavily propagandized segment of the most heavily propagandized country on earth a lot of credit when they can’t even seem to understand that a tarrif is a tax on imports.
How sad is it then that this group understands this better than you pretend to?
You mean like how the Democrats promoted Trump thinking that he’d be an easy win for Hillary?
No, it would be like funding a third party candidate that is close to Trump with the express purpose of peeling votes off Trump.
Genuinely clueless and wanting to understand here
What’s the difference between liberalism and leftism? My understanding of them is very nebulous and there’s a lot of overlap
Here you go: https://youtu.be/33p-8QHZpzY
This is why you idiots lost. Nobody was leftists enough for anyone and everyone was the enemy. Allies on the same side, instead of standing against fascism started calling each other Nazis. I’ve never seen so much bigotry, intolerance and even racism out of the left like I saw this election. And against each other! All cause we don’t fully agree with each other.
Meanwhile the right was unified and laughing at you. Congrats, the American left proves to be stupider than Maga. The right will continue to be unified as the left splinters into micro groups who hate each other.
The real idiots are the liberals, who knew they had to capitulate to the left to win and refused anyway.
That word means different things to everyone
I don’t even think you can call them leftists at this point. Being a leftist is fundamentally about worker solidarity. This is something else entirely. It’s a purity spiral death cult!
Yeah seriously, if there’s a single thing we’ve learned from this whole election, is that the best thing for the left is to enforce absolute ideological purity!
We must not tolerate any unorthodoxy! Better to abstain than anything!
It’s like you want to take this loss and make the lessons permanent…
I love how anything outside of what the democratic party wants to do is labelled “ideological purity” even though democrats endlessly shriek at anyone who does not toe the democratic party line. Democrats had their way, again, and lost, again. How about we try something new instead of democrats constantly trying to appeal to fascists while pretending to be the only thing to stand against fascism?
It’s like you want to take this loss and make the lessons permanent…
Yep. They don’t care what happens to workers or minorities. They just want to have someone to point their fingers at to blame for the world’s problems - and what better way to get that than handing over all power to literal fascists?
Seriously, it’s the emo version of politics, they get to sit at home and cry about how nobody gets them.
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It’s like you want to take this loss and make the lessons permanent…
Yes. That’s the point. If they can’t have exactly what they want, then acceleration towards collapse is more desirable than comprise.
“I’m going to hurt you because they hurt me”
You say that as if the DNCs campaign strategy wasn’t to absolutely abandon the left and try to court “moderate republicans”, which we very obviously just learned don’t actually exist.
try to court “moderate republicans”, which we very obviously just learned don’t actually exist.
Exactly. For all their effort, all the campaigning with Liz Cheney, all the promises of Republicans in the cabinet, and all the war hawk endorsements, Harris lost votes with Republicans compared to Biden.
Republicans don’t vote Democrat, stop running to the right to appease them. Democrats don’t want to hear that shit either and you need them to show up to win, so how about courting their vote instead.
…because taxing the rich, adding affordable daycare/child tax credits, a propose ban on price gouging, and other middle class incentives were abandoning the left…totes. The narrative that’s being pushed here is pretty bullshit. Her platform was on point for the middle class and below.
Sure. She campaigned in battleground states, more than any where else…but that was strategic. And it makes sense at the time.
Everyone just keeps saying “she abandoned the left” without adding literally any examples of it.
The DNC fucked up by not holding primaries, but Harris ran a pretty damn good game.
Enough. America is full of idiocy. Everywhere. This isn’t a campaign issue it’s an ignorance and bigotry issue.
Apparently it wasn’t so much that they don’t exist, but that people are generally stupid and if inflation spikes during your term you’re going to get the blame for it - even if your actions significantly limit inflation compared to the rest of the world.
Every government that was in power during the inflation rise and had an election this year lost voter share.
