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      That doesn’t mean we can win without donors. Republicans had foreign bots and billionaires buying votes.

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            There isn’t a question in your previous comment.

            And apparently you haven’t heard the one.

            You don’t wrestle a pig in mud because it gets mud all over you and the pig likes it.

            It will only drive up donorship to the Republicans and foster more lenient bribery donation policy from the Democrats going forward.

            The Democrats need to actually submit themselves to overhauling campaign funding if they want to make any headway. But they want that money. They want it more than they want any of their alleged policy goals.

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              Because of citizens united, money decides election wins. So how do we win without donors?

              This was the question that you are avoiding.

              To overhaul campaign funding they need to win. For that to happen they need donors.

              Also, just because a saying exists doesn’t make it right.

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                They didn’t avoid it

                They outspent and lost this time.

                Is a refutation of the premise. If, as you say, donation money decides elections then the democrats, having gotten and spent more, should have won.

                So, did money decide this election win?

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                  Republicans spent money and won. So yes it does. I never said spending the most money guarantees a win. That’s a straw man argument you are trying to build.

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                    Was your argument that “democrats have to spend some money”? The position that would be arguing against is that others believe they spend no money.

                    Not trying to build strawmen, I’m just genuinely confused. No-one is saying they spend no money, or court any donations. Which is why I, and seemingly the person you were having a discussion with thought, you meant most money.