*edited post title to make it clear that this is a joke
POS systems including tip requests really piss me off. We recently discovered a great local restaurant and we order food from them (and pick it up, to take home) a few times a month. They have one of those POS systems and it really irritates me to have to tap ‘No Tip’ in plain view of the cashier every time. We’re picking up food; I’m walking up to a counter, collecting a bag, swiping a credit card and leaving. Why the fuck would I tip for that? I don’t tip at the grocery store and cashiers there do the same amount of work.
As a bartender, if someone is picking up a to go order it’s expected that they won’t tip.
Most places mark Togo orders such that the staff aren’t tipping out on them (for obvious reasons) so it shouldn’t make a difference to the worker that they didn’t get a tip on it.
Who gets the tip of they do? Back of house or owners?
If an owner is taking the tips owed to the employee that’s illegal. Most places have a tip share suggested policy. At my place the kitchen gets 10% of food sales as a tip… Typically whether or not the customer has chosen to actually tip.
Why the fuck would I tip for that?
Because many restaurants split tips with the back end, and, well, somebody made the food.
Sure, and theoretically that’s covered by the price that was listed on the menu. If it’s not, it’s the restaurant’s problem, not mine. Fuck that noise, seriously.
it’s the restaurant’s problem, not mine
But you’re supporting the restaurant. You’re keeping the system afloat.
I’m supporting the restaurant by eating there, and paying menu prices for food. If they need me to pay more, they can raise their menu prices. I’m not going to guess how much things actually cost.
Tips keep the system afloat. The reason there aren’t mass strikes demanding an end to tips is because the system works for most.
Sure, racial minorities are significantly discriminated against and many will receive hardly minimum wage with tips but the majority of tipped workers is fine with it. And that’s all that is required for an unjust system to persist.
Tipped workers are fine with it because they make more money with tips than they would on hourly wages. This is directly the fault of people feeling the need to tip egregious amounts. If people stopped tipping, or started tipping significantly worse, tipped workers would stop being okay with it really fast, and would demand an end to the system.
If I go sit down in a restaurant and get table service, I tip, but I do that once a year, maybe. If I get delivery, I tip the driver. But I will absolutely not tip if I go into a restaurant, pick up food at the counter, and walk out. Never.
Where do you imagine the rest of the money from the receipt goes?
To the owners. Do… do you not know how private businesses operate?
That’s it, you sure got me, I don’t know how businesses operate. Do you?
Over the last six months or so, I haven’t tipped once in any establishment whatsoever. I decided it was a cancerous practice and people deserve to be paid what they’re due.
so you just go out and eat without tipping
No, I haven’t been out to eat in over six months.
When we say we’re against tipping people really say “then don’t eat at restaurants” as if that isn’t the best thing we can do for ourselves financially. By not paying restaurant prices I only give myself more money.
I’m Mexico a customer was beaten to death for not paying a tip. WTF, they killed a person for not paying like 5 dollars
Big doubt, got a source? I’m guessing there was more to the story.
It’s me. I decline to tip once, and now I’m deceased.
I’m sorry for your loss.
If this became real, it wouldn’t affect me and I’m introverted and near mute in public. I already do this with the “would you like to round up to donate” bullshit. I only have problems saying “no” if it will possibly hurt a person’s feelings; idgaf about the feelings of a business.
idgaf about the feelings of a business.
Fair enough, but you should know that the money you donate by rounding up doesn’t in any way benefit the business. It’s your donation and iirc you could even technically write it off your own taxes (doubt it’s worth the hassle though)
Also the thing about tips is that it will unfortunately hurt peoples feelings because at least in some places they probably earn below minimum wage. It’s absolutely bullshit, but not participating isn’t the perfect solution it might seem
Not strictly true. CVS, a US retailer, announced they would be donating $10 million to a charity and would be supporting the charity via customer round-up prompts as well.
In reality, they were including the customer donations in the $10 million, so anything customers donated saved them money.
It doesn’t really save them money, it just means they can report that number and get a public pat on the back. I highly doubt they were planning on donating that money w/o customer donations, they likely looked at past donations and figured this was a safe number to go for.
Donating through one of those prompts doesn’t help or hurt the company in any meaningful way, other than allowing the company to take credit for your donation (not on taxes, just on public statements).
I just never back to that place and also I’m going to give them a bad review
Bro if there’s a website to share this feedback.
I was just at a restaurant where it was 20%, 30%, or 40% tip, and Custom.
Food was good but fuck that, I’m done.
Eh, custom -> 0% works. I prefer to leave cash tips anyway.
Custom -25% inconvenience fee.
I wish that worked…
I also wish I could charge businesses for my time dealing with their BS. For example, I needed to go down to the bank to open a new account because they couldn’t identify me, but when I showed up, there were no bankers present. So I made an appointment, and still had to wait for a banker. Or when I had to wait on hold for half an hour just to cancel a credit card because there’s no way to do that online (and they have no branches), and they do that just to have a chance at convincing me to keep it.
If companies can charge me a fee for “maintenance” or “convenience” or whatever, surely I should be able to charge them a reasonable per-instance inconvenience fee (i.e. my hourly rate at my job, or what I’d charge for contract work).
Dude I think I’d be switching banks, if it’s that much of a hassle to get established, I don’t want to know the hassle if something actually needed to be done
You have typed $1.00 $2.00 $3.00
Did you mean 15% 25% 40%?
Tipping culture is weird and I only ever hear people mention it in the context of hating it. Yet they seem to have the mindset that there are no other options.
Have you talked to a lot of servers about it? I have a few friends who are servers who hate the idea of cutting out tips and just making minimum wage because they would make significantly less money.
Crazy thought, really really outside the box lateral thinking type shit, but how about paying them a living wage instead? Seems to work for other industries. I’m not tipping my welder.
I mean, if we’re waving a magic wand, I have a huge list of other improvements for society
Legally mandating a minimum wage is not magic. It can be done, other countries have already done it, and the US is already doing it, in other industries. This is really not as far fetched as you make it out to be.
America will do anything but pay workers a living wage.
The punchline is that the cashier doesn’t get any of the tips; they’re pure profit for the business.
I agree. The folks who run Square are, indeed, Pieces Of Shit.
That’s what you meant, right?
