Toyota is so far behind in the EV game that they are throwing out BS claims to give people pause who might be considering a purchase from all the other companies viable EVs right now. This is like 15 and 20 years ago when car makers were saying that their hydrogen cars were just a few years ago… which of course never materialized, but they used it as publicity stunts.
I have a hard time believing that this announcement is just a straight up lie. If they don’t have an actual working prototype, regardless of scale costs that they may be ignoring, wouldn’t they be open to a stakeholder suit for misleading the investors?
You are reading WAY too much into this. As many of other posts have already pointed out that YES this is feasible… but with very expensive, one-off prototype hardware. There’s no lie in that. It is simply exaggerating the HELL out of the truth because this ain’t going to see production for a long ass time (and most definitely at reduced specs).
As I mentioned in my post about hydrogen powered concept cars from like 20 years ago - many of them were indeed running (or sort of running), but they were far, far from near-production.
Toyota is in fact actively selling hydrogen cars. The Mirai is not awful, as long as you get a lease that includes free hydrogen. They’re probably losing tons of money on each one, but they’re selling them lol.
They aren’t ignoring scaling if your read the article…
Often there are breakthroughs at the prototype stage but then scaling it up is difficult,” he said. “If it is a genuine breakthrough it could be a gamechanger, very much the holy grail of battery vehicles.”
I find it funny how the media has just regurgitated their bullshit with essentially zero fact checking. This stuff is just outside the understanding of most people that they might not question it. To them this is Toyota making these claims. The company that made the '95 Camry which has been passed around to various family members and rolled up 300k miles. They trust Toyota. Maybe a little too much.
Riiiiight.
Toyota is so far behind in the EV game that they are throwing out BS claims to give people pause who might be considering a purchase from all the other companies viable EVs right now. This is like 15 and 20 years ago when car makers were saying that their hydrogen cars were just a few years ago… which of course never materialized, but they used it as publicity stunts.
I have a hard time believing that this announcement is just a straight up lie. If they don’t have an actual working prototype, regardless of scale costs that they may be ignoring, wouldn’t they be open to a stakeholder suit for misleading the investors?
You are reading WAY too much into this. As many of other posts have already pointed out that YES this is feasible… but with very expensive, one-off prototype hardware. There’s no lie in that. It is simply exaggerating the HELL out of the truth because this ain’t going to see production for a long ass time (and most definitely at reduced specs).
As I mentioned in my post about hydrogen powered concept cars from like 20 years ago - many of them were indeed running (or sort of running), but they were far, far from near-production.
Toyota is in fact actively selling hydrogen cars. The Mirai is not awful, as long as you get a lease that includes free hydrogen. They’re probably losing tons of money on each one, but they’re selling them lol.
The Mirai is far, far from a “production” car.
They aren’t ignoring scaling if your read the article…
Typical tabloid battery rubbish…
745 miles, assume 5 miles/kwh which is not unreasonable. That’s a 3.7Mwh battery (which my back of the envelope calcs would weight about 5 tonnes).
Charge that in 10 minutes you’d have to feed it from a 22Mw charger. So the output of a decent size offshore wind turbine. Per charger.
I haven’t got a clue how bloody heavy the connector would have to be… it wouldn’t be CCS, I can tell you that…
I find it funny how the media has just regurgitated their bullshit with essentially zero fact checking. This stuff is just outside the understanding of most people that they might not question it. To them this is Toyota making these claims. The company that made the '95 Camry which has been passed around to various family members and rolled up 300k miles. They trust Toyota. Maybe a little too much.