• shiroininja@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    You have no right to land other people already live on, unless you buy it from them. Settlers have no rights. We’ve mixed past this since colonization.

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      11 months ago

      A huge amount of Israel’s land was legally purchased during the late Ottoman era and the later British Mandate. We have plenty of records.

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        11 months ago

        So was the land that the US “bought” off of the indigenous tribes. Doesn’t make it right. Certainly doesn’t justify an ethnic cleansing.

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          11 months ago

          Eh, some of it. I won’t pretend to be an expert, but I’m pretty sure most American land was acquired by settlers simply marching in with guns and saying “We’re here now”. That’s to say nothing of the countless treaties that were signed and broken.

          I don’t exactly think the Osage were contacted about the Louisiana Purchase.

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          No. I’m saying that when a conflict starts there is no “right” anymore in the colloquial sense. And while I can easily blame am aggressors in a conflict for removing the comfort of peace, it’s much harder to justify blaming the entity attacked for its response.