My beef with Lemmy:
- It’s weighted towards politics
- Not a lot of niche sub critical mass yet (though this is not its fault at all)
- But holy moly, it’s a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! I’m (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.
But holy moly, it’s a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! I’m (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.
I saw people advocating for damaging people’s Teslas and it was fucking stupid. Beyond the fact that many people are not in a position where they can just get rid of a car over political reasons, it is likely many or even the majority of Tesla owners do not vote Republican (conservatives have been much slower to adopt EVs): you’re very likely going to damage vehicles owned by totally innocent people.
I own a non-Tesla EV but either way it would be excessively expensive to switch to another car on a whim, and I sure as hell am not going to deprive my family just because seeing my car’s brand hurts people’s feelings.
but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things!
So what? Do it anyway. Who cares about downvotes? Sounds like discussions can benefit from your input.
I’ve pointed out more than once that the phrase “Palestinian Genocide” is hyperbole.
Agree with the sentiment, I feel like cybertrucks deserve an exemption though, agree or disagree?
If this is your form of protest at least target someone who has materially contributed to this state of affairs, and by that I don’t mean random Republican voters.
People who have materially contributed to this state of affairs Republican voters
This Venn diagram is a circle.
If anything, cybertrucks come pre-damaged
or it can damage you by slicing you in two, i heard one instantly cut a deer in half when it crashed into one.
that part is wierd, conservatives dont own EVS, PERIOD fox has been telling how evs are a }pansy liberal thing", cybertruck is anomaly though.
For the moment, I just don’t engage in political discussion on Lemmy. It is way to extreme for me in general. It makes sense tho that those who don’t feel their opinions fit anywhere else (or get them banned etc.) gather in a place that allows for freer discussion, which I think is a good thing really.
And also just posting about niche music makes me happier than getting angry online so… That’s been a good motivation.
I don’t have any problems being occasionally politically incorrect on lemmy. Even if you get tons of downvotes, so what?
It’s not about downvotes. It is about me not wanting to spend my free time on something as pointless as arguing politics on the internet. Generally extremely unfulfilling and I feel like I lost out afterwards.
Like I get why people enjoy it but for a lot of people it is mainly a negative experience…
frankly, lemmy is literally only place I have found where you can discuss politics reasonably. I also try to rid myself of any pride about being right about anything and actually look forward to being called out if someone thinks i’m wrong. Then I can take a look at what they say and adjust my own opinions if the other guy makes sense.
Though i dont go to .ml, they seem more interested in witch hunts than making anything better.
That’s probably for the best Jamie Oliver - you do have a public persona to consider.
Yeah, but at least I can make a grilled cheese unlike that other dunce Gordon
in reddit you have to walk on eggshells when your in those subs, even if your “agreeing with everyone else”, one simple misconstruement will get you banned.
in reddit you have to walk on eggshells when your in those subs, even if your “agreeing with everyone else”, one simple misconstruement will get you banned.
The rando-ban problem on reddit is its biggest flaw. I’m afraid to submit anything there. And I generally only comment in small subs.
i did that unbeknownst they were haivng a ban wave last week, and subs upping thier spam removal filters, plus they dont like if you report too much, or report something the MODS dont like, from what ive gathered if a mod responds to your “report of another player” you are mostly getting a warning, or ban from thier subreddit, and this also it constitutes as account-wide violation once you get banned by a mod for reporting someone. and its also corroborated on the “modsupport” sub that they hate having to deal with Report abuse in general.
See, that’s exactly the kind of thing I come here for. Keep doing it!
Honestly I think your approach is closer to the ideal: it’s pretty poisonous to the mind if most of the content you take in is political in nature. You need to explore other stuff too, broaden horizons and all that.
I’ve been learning how to design parts with CAD software and 3D print it. Also got a home server going to host games and media, among other things. These hobbies keep me sane, and that’s what I’m ultimately getting at: people need to get a hobby that isn’t about being mad on the internet.
Also instead of just whining on the internet, its far more effective to engage in local politics and build up a base of people there than hoping that “someone” will do “something” about the whole country. That “someone” has to come from somewhere: create the grassroots that can be the base from which change springs.
Can I ask what resources your using to teach yourself CAD? I want to learn it as well.
MangoJelly’s FreeCAD course is great, but there are others out there too. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWuyJLVUNtc3UYXXfSglVpfWdX31F-e5S
Lemmy Leftists feel like that old Emo Philips joke at times.
Apparently anyone not wanting to live in a grey soviet tower block and have all their worldly possessions be redistributed by the state is a “fucking Lib”
People who call themselves “leftists” and hate “liberals” are almost always Stalinists or Communists. “Left” is actually a word that covers an entire spectrum of left of center: liberals, ultraliberals, and radical.
The irony is that the Stalinists are using a misleading inclusive word “leftist”, but historically Stalin and Lenin considered all the other leftist parties in Russia to be their main enemy, not people on the right. Members of these 2 leftist parties were their very first victims. All of them were killed or sent to the Gulag. And then later Stalin made an alliance with Hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Revolutionary_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensheviks <— this party was originally the very same party as the Bolsheviks and was the majority faction.
“Emo” is one hell of a name.
And a hell of a comedian.
Reddit has the same issue though.
But it’s still far more political here…
It’s more politically informed, for certain.
It’s scary until you notice you don’t get banned for disagreeing & challenging their dumbassery (as long as you follow the rules), unlike reddit where the slightest wrong move & it’s BAN BAN BAN. Fuck that place.
It also helps to check which instance a post comes from & adjust your expectations accordingly.
currently on reddit the slightest misconstrued of your comment will get you banned, my favorite is always “harassment and hate”. i was in the gym sub, and someone qouted machelenny as someone “that naturally achieved that look” from isaip, and responded with "roids and juiced up. instant ban, and you contact the mods for a whole month.
To compound the situation, the reporting process against moderators is hidden from view & a joke, and they practically prohibit any place to openly share notes on bad moderators, so users can’t collectively gather compelling evidence, organize, and condemn bad moderators.
Moderator Code of Conduct: Rule 3:
As a moderator, you cannot interfere with or disrupt Reddit communities, nor can you facilitate, encourage, coordinate, or enable members of your community to do this.
Interference includes:
- Enabling or encouraging content that showcases when users are banned or actioned in other communities, with the intent to incite a negative reaction.
Again, fuck that place.
It also helps to check which instance a post comes from & adjust your expectations accordingly.
Fundamentally, Reddit has (in the Past) better moderation, and theirs is lousy.
now its auto-moderating for the large, ones and overmoderation everywhere else.
It’s expected. Right now, it is becoming a safe space for political dissidence. As sentiment pools and gathers mass, things tend to get towards the polar opposites and revolt breeds more revolt. Anything less than total agreement is viewed sideways.
I got banned from the Star Trek Memes sub, or something, for very mild trolling. I don’t even remember what earned it, I think I said I can’t get my head around an animated Star Trek and can’t accept it as canon or something, and then the trolling was just me doubling down on that opinion (which is an actual opinion). People do love their fandoms.
star trek is wierd, theres like 2 types of fans, the old trek and the nutrek crowd, the nutrek crowd is wierd becuase the series that came out since 09 sucks balls.
What about SNW?
It may not punch as hard as DS9, but I still love it.
i feel like it could be a better series if the actors were given better lines, and dint act like robots and dint try to use current issues that mirrors the plot. i do like prodigy lower decks more. picard is just not good, kinda lazy in the end too.
star trek series, at least the old suck for the first 2 seasons, but it gets better, nutrek just gets worst overtime. snw tries to fix that though, but they shouldnt use the same styles as the other 2.
The SNW characters themselves are interesting though. Like, I can’t remember a single character from what little I watched of Discovery, many of Picard’s new ones were forgettable and so on, but I like all of SNW’s.
And I like the cast.
It needs better episode-to-episode writing, sure.
yea, someone said in a youtube video, they look like plastic dolls with botox trying to talk in snw. they definitely need more emotional expressions, and stop following kurtzman and discovery tropes. Picard couldve been better, if they stopped dropping the last seasons arcs , like with discovery. they needed to develop it further, and using material lifted from memory wiki pages and the books.(borg alliance, rogue changelings, time travelling borg(not related to first contact) should give those book some credit.
I had my comments deleted by some authoritarian nerd mod on one of those star trek communities for shitting on Discovery. Apparently, by having a negative opinion, I wasnt creating a welcoming atmosphere.
STD was such a garbage show, how did people find it good also there were continuity problems too , kurtzman abandoned the klingons look, and thier cloak behind, because he couldnt explain it.
If memory serves, there was an episode, when they were in the 32nd century, where they said they couldn’t jump (spore drive) while cloaked. Then, in the same episode (or one soon after) they did exactly that. Can’t even follow their own rules because the show is a joke to them.
But apparently in some spaces all opinions must be positive ones.
STD also sorts of continuity issues, cloaking and klingons appearances in the first seasons, never explained, this was pre-balance of terror, when klingons finally get thier cloak from the romulans. they dint use the "spore drive less in the later seasons, because how silly the animations look to the fans. then fans noticed the females only crew in the later seasons, they replaced all the men, whats the explanation in that.
Apparently, by having a negative opinion, I wasnt creating a welcoming atmosphere.
Jeez, some mods have never heard of the concept of toxic positivity
Ah, just what the Federation would aspire to: the silencing of any critical thought by undemocratically-installed secret leaders. Really does seem like the mod is a fan of NuTrek retcons.
(Secret because the mod log is usually obfuscated to users, so they don’t even know which mod deleted their comment to appeal the decision)
i mostly watched the nutrek clips, and thats why the “nutrek” fans think.
Risa?
Probably, can’t remember. I think so.
These problems usually solve themselves as the network grows.
Lucky you… I managed to get banned once, for not being “left” enough. So I just don’t engage in specific kind of topics anymore.
I’ve gotten banned somewhere for ostensibly malicious ninja editing, can’t even remember the community, but I do remember the topic. I dared clarify some factual thing.
But it wasn’t part of a particular bandwagon of hate, so no dice.
i argue that there arent really any niche communities. if I see a site with slow and limited posts, and 0 comments on most of those posts, can I really call that a community? i like video games and furry stuff. the video game and furry stuff sites have next to nothing on them. apparently the only ‘geeks’ here are Linux users who only talk about Linux distros or tankies who hate everyone and everything
Agreed.
I need to force myself to post/comment more in these subs though. Like I am trying to keep an eye on /c/thelastairbender for instance, but there are more.
I mean I think those are just the people who comment on politics threads.
Both of these posts are complaining about their accounts being banned, which happened because they (at least one of them) posted low effort questions and therefore got lots of downvotes and got automatically banned by a system meant to ban bots and trolls. The irony is that reddit has major problems with their automatic moderation which you yourself as an user is completely powerless to controll, e.g. recently when a massive amount of nsfw subreddits were banned for being unmoderated which they later admitted was erroneous.
Why are you on Reddit, it is vile and absolutely terrible, better stay away.
Lol. Lemmy feels more like reddit than reddit.
I’ve noticed a rise of Bot Moderators on reddit and their AI is not very good. They pick up on certain words and not context. One banned me for 3 days for harassment but I was defending myself against someone that was being antagonistic against me. My appeal was rejected :(
Lemmy tastes like reddit that I have grown in my backyard garden.
An heirloom Reddit, if you will.
so small and bitter but you just smile through it and say “it’s so good! 😢”?
maybe I don’t know how to grow stuff…You kind of just tipped your hand at your gardening ability. And also that you’ve never had a real tomato.
I argue mostly everyone here never had a real banana. No, the ones in the stores aren’t the original flavor.
Well, the one in the stores are real bananas. They aren’t Gros Michel bananas, but that’s because Gros Michel went extinct before I was born (and I’m not exactly young anymore.) We might lose the Cavendish before I die.
Supposedly the “banana flavor” in candy is closer to a Gros Michel than to a Cavendish.
Also: Gros Michel bananas have slippery peels. Cavendish do not! That’s where the weird trope with no remaining connection to real life comes from.
Woah. I was today years old when I learned the slippery banana trope comes from an extinct banana.
Stuff you learn from old cartoons, right? Like how shaking salt on a bird’s tail will prevent it from flying away. Where’d that go? Seems like I saw it a lot in cartoons when I was a kid, but haven’t heard this trope in 40 years.
Wait Jon Bois did some research on this recently: https://youtube.com/watch?v=p8W5GCnqT_M and slips have happened since the Gros Michel went extinct.
So, your comment isn’t the whole story.
And “real” wild bananas are basically inedible.
you are correct, I have been known to somehow kill a cactus or two.
Spider plants are going insane though, dispute losing >50% of them to the cold and rain this winter they are still living just fine. They’re like the plant version of cockroaches
Good to know, I decidedly do NOT have a green thumb either
Even last year when my tomatoes did poorly they still taste so much better than supermarket ones. Tbh outside a greenhouse I don’t think they really grow very well in the UK at all but I was given them so decided to try in the garden.
Main things I am growing is rosemary, thyme, sage, chives, mint, garlic and opium. But I kinda want to start guerrilla gardening some fruit bushes. Raspberries would be nice to plant around town.
Tulips.
Lemmy is tulips.
All the way down.
Lemmy feels like reddit from 2010, when it was good.
I mean any default experience which includes the ml trio is legitimately vile. The sooner Lemmy gets serious about the tankie problem, the better.
Hey this is my first day on Lemmy and my first comment, too! Fun times.
It’s so weird to read this, because other than a dork messaging me saying they were going to report me to the FBI I’ve had nothing but a lovely time on Lemmy.
I will say I have encountered a few highly voted positions that are beyond extreme to the point of stupidity, and I’m a Québecois union executive so that’s wild. Most of that was from Hexbear or .ml tankies though.
I just don’t respond to hostile comments on Reddit or here. It makes life much easier. It saves me time too - if my comment is 2 sentences and someone replies to me with 2 very lengthy paragraphs, I just pass.
What would the Federal Boob Inspectors want with you? Got a nice pair? I’m jealous.
Ima be real everyone is kissing lemmys ass but… I mean, it feels like reddit? Which is good?
Feels no different from reddit so far lol it’s not better or worse, really
The top comment on reddit is always a stupid fucking joke or pun. Not so on lemmy. That’s the biggest difference I notice when I go back to look at reddit. On popular posts the whole first 3 threads are inane bullshit.
“I also chose this guys dead wife”…
Like the inside jokes were really good on Reddit like the switcheroo one, or the guy that always had that whole comment that ended in the wrestling scene but most of them were just repeated to death
New here but so far it feels like Reddit used to feel 10 years ago - a bit less populated maybe.
Yeah Lemmy has the user base that will dogpile you if you say something mildly upsetting
Windows 11 is the best operating system Microsoft have released in a long time, and I think it wins out on Arch Linux.
Bait used to be believable
After 5 words it was already evident that you were lying
Windows XP was the best OS ever. Then it was overtaken by any other alternative.
I never had any issues with Vista and kept it until I was forced to go to 7.
Main difference from reddit is that you don’t see the same joke repeated in every thread. And here if you comment something it’ll probably be read by at least a few people.
Those top posts on reddit are always karma farming bots
Not so sure about the jokes. I use Arch BTW…
Disclaimer: I actually don’t. I’m too lazy these days.
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
I find myself getting into less stupid arguments here, and it feels more active.
Same culture, less exploitation by a corporation.
Here, your comment doesn’t get completely buried if you make one on a popular post. Part of that is the lack of heavy volume, of course, but I also feel like the sorting is more favorable to less upvoted comments.
I don’t get the hate this place gets. It’s been really interesting watching Lemmy’s growing pains over the last two-ish years and all the changes it has undergone. The whole concept of the Fediverse is fascinating to me and has been a genuine delight to explore.
I blame Tankies. They’re too aggressive with their “liberals this, liberals that” bullshit, which drives a way a lot of people cause that makes Lemmy look like a MAGA-infested shithole to anyone who doesn’t know what a Tankie this.
Hexbear and LemmyGrad’s bullshit almost made me quit Lemmy day one, until I learned how instances work and how to block them. I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off.
I wish Tankies would just stay in their own god damn space, and keep their bootlicking politics to themselves. They’re ruining Lemmy.
I blame the anti-tankies. Like this is the only site i even see the termed even used and it looks like a weird hysteria for most. The community is already smal so it looks relay wired. Even this whinny attitude of blocking every one on this tiny space give real off vibes.
I am much more liberal with the block on lemmy than reddit simply because I know that I will probably have to interact with the person again if I don’t block them. I dont think I ever blocked more than maybe 10 people in the entirety of my time on reddit. on lemmy I block basically everyone I just don’t want to hear from.
they already have thier safe spaces on r/consevative, conspiracy, and trueunpopular opinon, but they whine on other subs that th ey are still get censored, or the so-called left is in an echo-chamber ever since trump won. even though those sub is mostly run by russian state owned bot system.
Can confirm - I’m new here and when I see pieces of shit who’d be right at home amongst the people my grandfather killed in WWII (AKA nazis) it doesn’t make me more interested in sticking around. At this point IDGAF why they think they way they think, they can fuck off into the sun. At some point I’ll see whatever blocking thing there is and it will get better. Still an improvement over reddit.
people my grandfather killed in WWII
YSK that it was tankies who killed 80% of the Nazis in ww2
We know, it was a team effort.
There was also that broken Nazi/Soviet pact and all that carving up of other peoples countries though that was supposed to go the other way.
And look, another Nazi plot with the Russians.
The Nazis had pacts with literally everyone. The Soviets were one of the last to sign one, because they had spent the proceeding years trying to form an explicitly anti-Nazi pact with the capitalist nations, only to be rebuffed.
If Chamberlain had listened to Stalin, the war either wouldn’t have happened, or it would have been over much more quickly.
The Nazis had pacts with literally everyone.
Nope. With only with Russia, Axis nations, and a few small countries.
Stalin literally made a pact with Hitler to participate in the imperialist invasion of Poland.
Here’s one example that took place a year before the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact
Neville Chamberlain and Édouard Daladier made a pact with Hitler to just give him their former ally, Czechoslovakia.
Everyone except America :)
(Which had segregation and was the inspiration for half of Nazi Germany’s policies)
Everyone except America :)
Tends to happen when there’s war happening in another continent
It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say that the bully countries never understand.
There was also a secret protocol to the pact, which was revealed only after Germany’s defeat in 1945[101] although hints about its provisions had been leaked much earlier, so as to influence Lithuania.[102] According to the protocol, Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland were divided into German and Soviet “spheres of influence”.[101] In the north, Finland, Estonia, and Latvia were assigned to the Soviet sphere.[101] Poland was to be partitioned in the event of its “political rearrangement”: the areas east of the Pisa, Narew, Vistula, and San rivers would go to the Soviet Union, and Germany would occupy the west.[101] Lithuania, which was adjacent to East Prussia, was assigned to the German sphere of influence, but a second secret protocol, agreed to in September 1939, reassigned Lithuania to the Soviet Union.[103] According to the protocol, Lithuania would be granted its historical capital, Vilnius, which was part of Poland during the interwar period. Another clause stipulated that Germany would not interfere with the Soviet Union’s actions towards Bessarabia, which was then part of Romania.[101] As a result, Bessarabia as well as the Northern Bukovina and Hertsa regions were occupied by the Soviets and integrated into the Soviet Union.
It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say
Please tell me what alternative there was for these “cut up countries”. If the USSR hadn’t established military presence in these countries, they’d just have been invaded by the Nazis. Maybe you expect the Soviet Union, after being ignored for a decade of mutual defense negotiations, to selflessly send its people to die for the countries that refused a military alliance? Like literally, what was the alternative here
I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off
Good. The last thing we need is more stormfront brainrot.
Also, quite the ironic comment.
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All politics ruin everything.
Only way you believe this is if you’re extremely priviledge so that politics don’t impact your life or ignorant about the fact that it does.
Most politics*
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There’s a lot of negativity here tbh
I haven’t really seen it outside of the like normal levels of hate. Which subLemmys or whatever are you seeing it on?
Just in general there is no level of chill. I have the down votes completely disabled
Avoid the news communities and filter out the Trump and Elon spam and you’ll have a much better time.
True Story, Bob
Lol.
Apparently there is a guy called Lemmy LMAO 🤣
Wait till they hear about reddit
Oh no… Anyway.
Usually when there are more comments than upvotes it means that OP is getting thoroughly roasted
Nah that went away with the advent of the “proportional” scoring or whatever bullshit they called it like 10 years ago
It’s that what happened when a popular post that was ‘blowing up’ on Reddit went from 500 updoots on the front page to mediocre front-page posts regularly getting 3-4k updoots seemingly over night?
I was there, I remember the change, I can’t remember why it happened.
It was ostensibly to make it harder for advertisers to game their own posts (similar to not showing you your own posts’ scores for a set period after creation), but like everything else on that site, it’s turned into some bullshit activist mods and admins use to keep things their corporate overlords don’t like from gaining too much traction.
