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    It’s private in the sense that the DMs were made between 2 people. They are public in the sense that the admins of the instance(s) can read the DMs. Just like admins of any server can read anything that’s not encrypted at source.

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      so… only admins can read the mail but the counterparty can’t disclose their own mail?

      wtf sort of logic does this rely on

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        No. Admins can read any mail. And everyone has access to their own mail?! And I mean everyone can disclose anything in their posession. It’s just not allowed and unethical. Though in most cases you’re allowed to publish what you wrote yourself. You just may not publish other people’s secrets or info publicly.

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          Almost everything you said isn’t true. Point to the rule that says someone can’t disclose a DM they were part of? Unethical? Sure.

          And I mean everyone can disclose anything in their posession.

          It’s just not allowed

          Make up your mind.

          Also Drag is a troll. Has suggested that several people commit suicide. Drag doesn’t get a pass. Drag is a piece of shit. Don’t be Drag.

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              You’re a shitposter, and I’ve told you I disagree with you more often than I agree. But fuck me, Drag is verifiably a piece of shit. When you don’t, and i say this with love, have your head up your ass…I’ll have your back.

              I’m being catty. Hoping you vibe with the teasing. Work drinks, last joke before bed. Hope I nailed it… Just like I nailed your mum!

              OK, I’ll stop for real.

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                When you don’t, and i say this with love, have your head up your ass…I’ll have your back.

                I think the best I am do is 30%, take it or leave it!

                NO MUM

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                  God damnit. See this is what I mean. I see a moronic comment, I look over and see it’s your username. No need to follow your “content” or watch your history when you’re stupid all over the place.

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                  Since your mum and I bumped uglies, that de-facto makes me your dad. I’m a responsible parent, and I love unconditionally. 30% is the best you can do, and that’s enough.

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            Not sure where you live, and I don’t know much about US law, but for me, it’s §203 and §206 StGB. Get’s you either fined, or up to a maximum of 1 or 5 years in jail. And especially §206 is super clear and specifically mentions electronic letters. I can assure you, I’m 100% correct on that.

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              It depends on the state. My state is a one party state, meaning any person that is party to a private conversation can legally reveal everything in it to the public.

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                Yeah, I figured we’d need to track the criminal down to a specific contry and state and then ask a lawyer to make sure. We’re super strict here. If someone uses the voice recorder app or takes a video with sound in a private conversation, that’s already a serious thing. Of course similar restrictions apply to phone calls, letters and electronic conversation.

                Reading US law isn’t easy for me, I mean there’s always a lot involved and then there are laws on two or three levels plus exemptions and additional rules… I wonder if such a freedom in a one party state applies to people like whistleblowers and other unruly people as well…

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                  On paper, whistleblowers have federal protection from prosecution. In reality, however, if you blow the whistle on a rich person, a corporation, or the government, the government will go out of its way to punish you and make an example. See Edward Snowden, who is still wanted by the government, despite having revealed the government was engaged in what was then highly illegal espionage against their own citizens. The government responded by making that invasion of privacy legal.

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                  Of course similar restrictions apply to phone calls, letters and electronic conversation.

                  I am sure US mega corps are complying and the law is enforced against them

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                    Not sure, I’ve never worked for an US mega corp. And those really don’t seem to like the law, or worker unions who start complaining and blow it up once someone gets mistreated/surveilled by their employer… Honestly, I’m not sure where we’re at, overall. I’ve read about both things happen, corporations getting sued / fined and getting away with exploiting their employees.

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              I’m from Canada and live in the UK. You’re allowed to, barring some very specific circumstances, record or repeat any conversation you are party to. If you were posting a DM convo that your friend was having, taking pictures of their screen while they were out of the room and then putting it online. You’re fucked. If you are an active participant of a conversation/DM chain then as party to said communication you have the legal right to tell anyone, record it for reporting to the news, or the cops, or your gf.

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                The internet seems to suggest it’s illegal in the UK, for example to share recorded phone calls. According to the first page of Google, recording itself is fine, while sharing or making them public isn’t. But I haven’t looked up the specifics.

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                  I’m not a lawyer. I am quite drunk. One might look up “unreliable narrator” and see me. I’m also not so up my own ass I can’t admit I was wrong. Touché internet person, touché.